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I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:39:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK21rcONJQk
In my video, I briefly show that the nanocircuitry skill does not state that it gives a bonus, yet there clearly is on.
I have level 5 nanocircuity, and the amount of reduction in cpu is exactly 25% for both nanohives and nanite injectors.
The easiest way to test this yourself is to go get a militia nanite injector, equip it to a blank suit, and compare your skill level. Each level should decrease the cpu by 1 EXACTLY for a maximum of 5. If you have circuitry 3, the militia injector will only cost 17 cpu.
I then go on to show that the uplinks, scanners, and repair tools don't have this bonus for their respective skill. At the end of the video, I prove this by showing that I have level 5 uplink and level 5 repair tool, as well as level 3 scanner.
This is also not a logi bonus, as I can equip them to an assault suit and get the same effect.
The reason why I know it's the nanocircuitry skill doing this is because it affects ONLY the nanite injectors and nanohives. ______________________
Questions:
Why is the bonus not in the description? Why are there not bonuses like this for ALL equipment skills? Is this a mistake or something that was overlooked? |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
1540
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:42:00 -
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Well originally back in Chromosome:
Nanocircuitry 2x Skill and knowledge of nanocircuitry and its use in the operation of advanced technology. Unlocks access to nanohives and nanite injectors. 5% reduction to CPU usage of modules that require the nanocircuitry skill per level.
Prerequisites: Circuitry III
Maybe they forgot to take it off...
I HOPE they just forgot to add it to the description... If I lose that 5% per level bonus I'm screwed.
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
706
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:57:00 -
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I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHANE, NOTHING HAPPENING ON MY END WINK |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:08:00 -
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Hmmmmm |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1120
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Posted - 2013.10.23 13:11:00 -
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wish all the equipment skills did this |
hydraSlav's
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
303
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK21rcONJQk
In my video, I briefly show that the nanocircuitry skill does not state that it gives a bonus, yet there clearly is one.
I have level 5 nanocircuity, and the amount of reduction in cpu is exactly 25% for both nanohives and nanite injectors.
The easiest way to test this yourself is to go get a militia nanite injector, equip it to a blank suit, and compare your skill level. Each level should decrease the cpu by 1 EXACTLY for a maximum of 5. If you have circuitry 3, the militia injector will only cost 17 cpu.
I then go on to show that the uplinks, scanners, and repair tools don't have this bonus for their respective skill. At the end of the video, I prove this by showing that I have level 5 uplink and level 5 repair tool, as well as level 3 scanner.
This is also not a logi bonus, as I can equip them to an assault suit and get the same effect.
The reason why I know it's the nanocircuitry skill doing this is because it affects ONLY the nanite injectors and nanohives. ______________________
Questions:
Why is the bonus not in the description? Why are there not bonuses like this for ALL equipment skills? Is this a mistake or something that was overlooked?
Read here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=894719
The bonus is not in "short description" but it is present in "full description" when you go to skills from the market window (yeah... i know.... who does that? [no sarcasm]) It is intended and has been like that for a long time. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.10.23 14:29:00 -
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I remember getting screwed over my Vehicle Engineering saying "Gives 5% PG per level." There were posts by Devs that stated "It isn't working correctly; you are not getting the bonuses." Great, so every Tanker skilled into it. Next three days: "When we meant that it wasn't working correctly, we meant that you are not getting the bonuses for what the skill actually does. It doesn't do 5% PG per level, where could you possibly gotten that idea?"
That is the reason why there was a second wave of Respecs, along with Vehicle Shield Skills needing to also have Dropsuit Shield Skills.
In other words, I assume everything is not working as intended and will not be disappointed when the 'bug' I was using no longer works. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:13:00 -
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hydraSlav's wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote: Questions:
Why is the bonus not in the description? Why are there not bonuses like this for ALL equipment skills? Is this a mistake or something that was overlooked?
Read here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=894719The bonus is not in "short description" but it is present in "full description" when you go to skills from the market window (yeah... i know.... who does that? [no sarcasm]) It is intended and has been like that for a long time.
Thank you for making this more clear.
Problems still exsist though:
-Description needs to be updated to make the bonus visible (If I had known about this bonus I would have skilled into nanocircuitry FIRST not last). If the last time it was brought up was in JUNE, then obviously this needs to be made visible again, and a fix is long past due for this. How hard is it to add some words to a description? -It's inconsistent with the other equipment (If one skill is going to provide a bonus, EVERY skill should provide a bonus. Even if this means that the nanocircuitry skill bonus would be reduced to balance this. Every weapon and almost every module has a bonus on the skill that lets them unlock higher tiers, why not equipment?). |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2114
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:15:00 -
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Oh god please don't fix it. Half my suits will probably become invalid. (I like advanced nanohives....) |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
2015
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:28:00 -
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AHA......... RESPEC PLS!
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
268
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:35:00 -
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**** you Shayz! **** you!!
Edit: I noticed this a few weeks ago when I went to lvl 4 to get Triage hives. I thought about bring it up, then quickly thought twice, as I didn't want to bring unneeded attention and have CCP fix it.
Thanks for nothin.... |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1123
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Posted - 2013.10.23 22:52:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:**** you Shayz! **** you!! Edit: I noticed this a few weeks ago when I went to lvl 4 to get Triage hives. I thought about bring it up, then quickly thought twice, as I didn't want to bring unneeded attention and have CCP fix it. Thanks for nothin....
It has been an INTENDED feature since before uprising. Pretty sure that they just forgot to put the 5% bonus into the description...as it's in the market description for the skillbook.
What we need to do is convince CCP that all equipment needs a bonus, not just nanohives and injectors |
Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:00:00 -
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No worries, it will take CCP no less than 9 Months to fix this if it is wrong. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
273
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:03:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:**** you Shayz! **** you!! Edit: I noticed this a few weeks ago when I went to lvl 4 to get Triage hives. I thought about bring it up, then quickly thought twice, as I didn't want to bring unneeded attention and have CCP fix it. Thanks for nothin.... It has been an INTENDED feature since before uprising. Pretty sure that they just forgot to put the 5% bonus into the description...as it's in the market description for the skillbook. What we need to do is convince CCP that all equipment needs a bonus, not just nanohives and injectors
I hope so. I thought I remember reading a few updates back that they were removing these passive skills in favor of just unlocking new Meta levels.
I agree. All equipment skills should reduce fitting skills too. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1124
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:13:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:**** you Shayz! **** you!! Edit: I noticed this a few weeks ago when I went to lvl 4 to get Triage hives. I thought about bring it up, then quickly thought twice, as I didn't want to bring unneeded attention and have CCP fix it. Thanks for nothin.... It has been an INTENDED feature since before uprising. Pretty sure that they just forgot to put the 5% bonus into the description...as it's in the market description for the skillbook. What we need to do is convince CCP that all equipment needs a bonus, not just nanohives and injectors I hope so. I thought I remember reading a few updates back that they were removing these passive skills in favor of just unlocking new Meta levels. I agree. All equipment skills should reduce fitting skills too.
What they really want to do is add bonuses to the equipment use themselves (scanner displays would last longer, nanohives would have more clusters, repair tools would rep faster, uplinks have faster spawns, etc) by putting these bonuses on the logi dropsuits.
I would rather just see these kinds of bonuses on the skills themselves, and maybe even introduce a prociency skill and fitting optimization skill for each equipment too. |
Kazeno Rannaa
BIG BAD W0LVES
277
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:55:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Thor McStrut wrote:**** you Shayz! **** you!! Edit: I noticed this a few weeks ago when I went to lvl 4 to get Triage hives. I thought about bring it up, then quickly thought twice, as I didn't want to bring unneeded attention and have CCP fix it. Thanks for nothin.... It has been an INTENDED feature since before uprising. Pretty sure that they just forgot to put the 5% bonus into the description...as it's in the market description for the skillbook. What we need to do is convince CCP that all equipment needs a bonus, not just nanohives and injectors I hope so. I thought I remember reading a few updates back that they were removing these passive skills in favor of just unlocking new Meta levels. I agree. All equipment skills should reduce fitting skills too.
Especially active scanners. Those things are both CPU and PG sinks on your suit. |
Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
151
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:02:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK21rcONJQk
In my video, I briefly show that the nanocircuitry skill does not state that it gives a bonus, yet there clearly is one.
I have level 5 nanocircuity, and the amount of reduction in cpu is exactly 25% for both nanohives and nanite injectors.
The easiest way to test this yourself is to go get a militia nanite injector, equip it to a blank suit, and compare your skill level. Each level should decrease the cpu by 1 EXACTLY for a maximum of 5. If you have circuitry 3, the militia injector will only cost 17 cpu.
I then go on to show that the uplinks, scanners, and repair tools don't have this bonus for their respective skill. At the end of the video, I prove this by showing that I have level 5 uplink and level 5 repair tool, as well as level 3 scanner.
This is also not a logi bonus, as I can equip them to an assault suit and get the same effect.
The reason why I know it's the nanocircuitry skill doing this is because it affects ONLY the nanite injectors and nanohives. ______________________
Questions:
Why is the bonus not in the description? Why are there not bonuses like this for ALL equipment skills? Is this a mistake or something that was overlooked? You idiot, now CCP is probably going to take the bonus away.
If you just ruined it for all of us, I will destroy you. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1133
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Posted - 2013.10.24 04:49:00 -
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Still need to find a real answer on this. |
hydraSlav's
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
309
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:56:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote: Thank you for making this more clear.
Problems still exsist though
You are right, not arguing with you there |
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