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Cy Clone1
Cy CL0Ne 1
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Posted - 2013.10.23 04:40:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:Xender17 wrote:sucks.
Finished your title for you.
gunnlogis don't beat madrugars. You can't in any 1v1 situation.
They are better in everyway. You are an idiot, I've already beat quite a few. But today I got destroyed twice, but in my defense the first time I was hit by a proto swarm right before going around a corner right into a madrugar, and the second (in the same match) I got a precision strike called on me and then the madrugar chased me into the redline.
The fact that armor tanks are better than shield tanks isn't even up for discussion!!! Their reps are not working as intended( pulsing to many times). I'm not even going to go into the numerous other reasons. That being said as someone who only used shield tanks I would advise you to make high health(resistance) high damage tanks. Using rail or missile. You have no chance beating them in a straight up fight. You should wait for surprise attacks, or when ever you see their reps finish.
I would run two damage mods (10%
Heavy azo extender
3x 15% resistors or 2x 15%
speed booster or light extender
if using missile
if rail then throw on heat sink II instead of booster or extender
Normally you should use shield boosters, but I have found that its better to just be able to hit hard and take damage then get the heck out of there. Using recalling helps with gaining health back.... Have two tanks stocked that way you can call other in while recalling the pervious one. Hope this helps |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.23 04:48:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I didn't insult you when I called you for what you are. You called Xander an idiot, and Xander is far from an idiot. His on field actions shows that. Good advice given and you respond like an immature brat.
Instead, you and the troll are asking about gunloggis that no actual proud tanker would ever declare he has.
And you're the guy complaining about getting your tank blown up in another thread.
I hope to see you on the battlefield boy, I'm going to make life hell for you...you will be the clone sink for your team. Dude jusr because you suck at piloting gunlogis dosent mean there usless. Heres a list of tankers I know and run with who all use shields and make them viable 1 jason pearson 2 generall grodd 3 sir meode 4 generall mclusky 5 horizon limit 6 odell I also run shielded vehicles and turn a proffit from pubs even when I use my fully specked and fitted falchions. Shield vehicles work well if used for their hit run hide ability . They are not stand and deliver tanks but gurrilla warfair vehicles but I guess you are ine if these guys who got themselves one and ran it right into a bunch of reds like a f#@king hero.
Thing is my armor tanks is better at hit and run than your shield tank. I have only been killed by gunlogis a couple of times (I was already weakened) while having destroyed an uncountable amount. |
Cy Clone1
Cy CL0Ne 1
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Posted - 2013.10.23 04:48:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:pegasis prime wrote:8213 wrote:The Gunnlogi has speed. The only way its going to beat the Mudder is to get a maneuvering jump on it. Start attacking first, and have a better exit route.
Railgun or not, if you sit there and try to duke with a Muddy, you will lose.
I would drive right up Gunnlogis because I simply thought of them as a MLT level HAV. The blaster cuts through shields like a hot knife through butter, and eats the little armor they have.
You have to out play the Mudder, but Gunnlogis can destroy Mudders. I don't know why they aren't used as often anymore. No one but long standing vetts use gunlogis on a regylar basis for a few reasons . 1 we lost our equaliser with armour at the start of uprising I.e. dammage stacking 2 our boosters dont even rep the dammage from 1 forge gun blast 3 our hardners are weaker than armor hardners 4 new tankers treat their gunlogis like maddys and fail so they give up on them. We gunlogi pilots are out their there may be few of us but were here. Also most maddy pilots can rely on op fittings but shield tankers need more pilot skill and better battlefield awareness and I think thats too much for some folks spot on. i use gunlogis like sniper rifles and they work as such. dont try to fight a maddy that sees you. the brilliance of the gunlogi is damage mods. a madrugar cannot defeat a rail sniper. ever. the dps is far too low. a gunny can, however. gunlogi pilots have always been a rare breed. it's just a thousand times harder now but i still love em...not to say i dont use a madrugar most of the time. it's just less situational than a gunny.
A mady can easily beat a rail gunner! the dps is defiantly high enough. We cannot throw redline sniping into the mix and say that a gunlogi's make better railguns. Mady's can look farther down then gunlogis. I should not have to remind shield tankers of the times that they couldn't kill an easy target because they drove on an ant hill |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.23 04:51:00 -
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I use two 10% damage mods, speed booster, surge 30% resistance, 2x 15% resistor and heavy clarity shield rep. As for weapons i use XT small cycled turrets and AT Accelerated/XT Aur Turret. |
I AM TacoBueno
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.23 05:08:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:He wasn't being an idiot though. Everybody has said what he has said, you just didn't like the way he said it.
You can't beat them 1 on 1, but you can use speed and tactics to win over. If you try to hit them dead on with your gunloggi, you're in trouble.
Just leave already dude |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.23 05:34:00 -
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use missiles and one damage mod if you can along with an advanced turret. sometimes i used a tracking enhancer in my low slot.
most important thing though is to start shooting and hiting him from as far away as you can. if he's dumb he'll charge at you. if he's smart hell run away but then you can chase him and finish him off. ive killed lots of maddrugars with only a standard missile turret on a sica with no damage mods. also use small missile turrets too |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
650
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Posted - 2013.10.23 05:50:00 -
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Use a Caldari tank the way anything Caldari is supposed to be used.
Sit way back and pop stuff with a rail turret. |
Ld Collins
The Phalanx Inc
63
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Posted - 2013.10.23 06:07:00 -
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It really depends on how good the driver is ive killed 3 maddys and a falchion by myself in one match I've had maddys come at me with 5-6k armor and they just end up dying. If a maddy gets the chance to ambush a gunnlogi theres almost no way out of the situation. I have used turret tracking boosters to give my gunnlogi a bit more evasive maddys usually charge you in a straight line you cant out run the maddy but you can out run his turret. |
Xender17
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.23 07:45:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Use a Caldari tank the way anything Caldari is supposed to be used.
Sit way back and pop stuff with a rail turret.
If gunnlogi is meant for far distance than a caldari dropsuit should be made for far distance.
But they aren't so. |
nakaya indigene
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.10.23 08:43:00 -
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I AM TacoBueno wrote:I just wanted to know how to take out a maddruger blaster tank with a gunnlogi. Basically what would be the best turret and should I go for more shields or amplifiers? Also what would be good small turrets to help damage the enemy tank even more. I do really know what does good damage against shields or armor, but I'm guessing railguns do a lot of damage to shields.
Also what are some of your fits?
buffer tank the frak out of it.. and put 2 highthrouput field stabs in your lows and use a neutron scattered. also use a heat sync.. sneak up on the maddy and unload.. you should do enough damage before the reppers can catch up. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1267
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Posted - 2013.10.23 09:55:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:sucks.
Finished your title for you.
gunnlogis don't beat madrugars. You can't in any 1v1 situation.
They are better in everyway.
And if a madrugar users claims gunnlogis are better at AI than madrugars...
They aren't.
Madrugars have +1000 hp +100 E/hp. Move faster and have better aim. If a madrugar chose to use passive res it would still be better.
Rails or missiles, and pray that the Maddy can't dodge. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.10.23 11:46:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I didn't insult you when I called you for what you are. You called Xander an idiot, and Xander is far from an idiot. His on field actions shows that. Good advice given and you respond like an immature brat.
Instead, you and the troll are asking about gunloggis that no actual proud tanker would ever declare he has.
And you're the guy complaining about getting your tank blown up in another thread.
I hope to see you on the battlefield boy, I'm going to make life hell for you...you will be the clone sink for your team. Dude jusr because you suck at piloting gunlogis dosent mean there usless. Heres a list of tankers I know and run with who all use shields and make them viable 1 jason pearson 2 generall grodd 3 sir meode 4 generall mclusky 5 horizon limit 6 odell I also run shielded vehicles and turn a proffit from pubs even when I use my fully specked and fitted falchions. Shield vehicles work well if used for their hit run hide ability . They are not stand and deliver tanks but gurrilla warfair vehicles but I guess you are ine if these guys who got themselves one and ran it right into a bunch of reds like a f#@king hero. Thing is my armor tanks is better at hit and run than your shield tank. I have only been killed by gunlogis a couple of times (I was already weakened) while having destroyed an uncountable amount.
the only reason armour can out-match shields in the hit run hide style is because of the broken reps, yes armour is better than shields but that is only because of bugs as mentiond several times . I still pop lots of maddys in my gunlogis ( mainly the ones that I can keep at range) and yes gunlogis are dead if armour gets with in 70m. that's why I run fusions on all my fits its all about keeping the distance. |
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