DUST Search - Conservative Senator calls Republic "Untrustworthy"

Delta 749 wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

I would like to take this opportunity to remind the Minmatar of how the Caldari were treated by the federation and suggest you all rethink any ties you have to them. How long do you think until federation forces come to force you under their heel and kill those who resist, all in the name of "freedom" of course.

Never. At least as they don't try to mess with the king of the jungle.

I'm a Born Gallante. Half Minmatar, half Intaki. Naturally I revere the Minmatar. Though, the Republic needs to stop trying to consume our space. Crap like that is not going to fly.

Ah yes, as long as they willingly submit to the Gallentes will and not challenge their decisions the Minmatar will be left alone.
Tell me how treating them as dogs wearing choke collars you will pull at the slightest provocation is supposed to foster good will among them or how supporting such actions in anyway reveres the Minmatar people or their culture or even how forcing others to abdicate to your will does fly in the face of the "freedom" the Gallente like to spout.
Were you my child and defending the actions of the federation and how they go against the ideals you all supposedly hold so dear I would be embarrassed and deeply saddened, doubly so if I were your Minmatar parent


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DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2291	Posted - 2013.10.23 23:18:00 - [1] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: I would like to take this opportunity to remind the Minmatar of how the Caldari were treated by the federation and suggest you all rethink any ties you have to them. How long do you think until federation forces come to force you under their heel and kill those who resist, all in the name of "freedom" of course. Never. At least as they don't try to mess with the king of the jungle. I'm a Born Gallante. Half Minmatar, half Intaki. Naturally I revere the Minmatar. Though, the Republic needs to stop trying to consume our space. Crap like that is not going to fly.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2292	Posted - 2013.10.24 13:08:00 - [2] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Delta 749 wrote: I would like to take this opportunity to remind the Minmatar of how the Caldari were treated by the federation and suggest you all rethink any ties you have to them. How long do you think until federation forces come to force you under their heel and kill those who resist, all in the name of "freedom" of course. Never. At least as they don't try to mess with the king of the jungle. I'm a Born Gallante. Half Minmatar, half Intaki. Naturally I revere the Minmatar. Though, the Republic needs to stop trying to consume our space. Crap like that is not going to fly. Ah yes, as long as they willingly submit to the Gallentes will and not challenge their decisions the Minmatar will be left alone. Tell me how treating them as dogs wearing choke collars you will pull at the slightest provocation is supposed to foster good will among them or how supporting such actions in anyway reveres the Minmatar people or their culture or even how forcing others to abdicate to your will does fly in the face of the "freedom" the Gallente like to spout. Were you my child and defending the actions of the federation and how they go against the ideals you all supposedly hold so dear I would be embarrassed and deeply saddened, doubly so if I were your Minmatar parent The Federation does not want to control the Republic. The Federation wants to cooperate with the Republic. A mutual alliance. Invading each other is not beneficial. Also, the Federation does not try to dominate them either, in fact the Federation stands idle at the fact that there is free trade between the State and Republic. What the Republic does is their business. Yes, the Federation gives them funding for common military ventures in Amarr-Minmatar Space, a project I was personally involved with. The only reason we do this is because we want a lot of things done, yet the Federal Military cannot just invade. Instead we have opted to assist the Minmatar to achieve common goals. We are not forcing them to fight for us, no, they were already involved in a struggle and we simply want to enhance their advances. Though, the reason we support the Minmatar is because we see a lot of our ideals in them. They have a wide diversity of ethnic origins, religions and beliefs. I do not understand why people think the Federation bosses the Republic around. The have consistently done things we did not like, mostly economic ventures with pirates or some Caldari companies over Gallante Companies. If we really controlled the Republic we would have exploited their resources by now. What you speak is lies, slander.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2293	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:25:00 - [3] - Quote You seem offended by the idea of proxy wars and of supporting war between other factions, though the Caldari are the most guilty of the Empires when it comes to supporting foreign wars. Caldari corporations consistently sell armament between two or more rivals in an attempt to make a high profit. That is just dirty business. The biggest example of this is Caldari support of the Minmatar and Ammatar. The Caldari supported the Minmatar but then supported the Ammatar so they could exploit their resources. It should be noted that the Caldari continued to manipulate the Minmatar Republic while exploiting the Ammatar. So don't you try to patronize us while you play your "clients" against one another. At least the Gallante support their allies exclusively, 100 . Can't say the same for the Caldari.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2293	Posted - 2013.10.25 03:39:00 - [4] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You seem offended by the idea of proxy wars and of supporting war between other factions, though the Caldari are the most guilty of the Empires when it comes to supporting foreign wars. Caldari corporations consistently sell armament between two or more rivals in an attempt to make a high profit. That is just dirty business. The biggest example of this is Caldari support of the Minmatar and Ammatar. The Caldari supported the Minmatar but then supported the Ammatar so they could exploit their resources. It should be noted that the Caldari continued to manipulate the Minmatar Republic while exploiting the Ammatar. So don't you try to patronize us while you play your "clients" against one another. At least the Gallante support their allies exclusively, 100 . Can't say the same for the Caldari. Yes but you can say the Caldari are open in our dealings in regards to those two empires, we dont claim the Ammar as allies and then assault their civilians and put the victim on trial for defending himself which is more than you can say for the Gallentes treatment of their "allies" You are rather badly informed, my dear gamin. The Caldari State has not been open about their support of the Ammatar. They have tried to keep it hidden as long as possible, but it is hard to keep a large supply route like that a secret for long. Also, you seem to be ignorant in our manner of justice. The accused was put on trial on the basis of foul play. This is die to one of the vandals being found dead several blocks from the purported incident. Though, a more thorough investigation showed that the vagabond in question had died of injuries suffered at the alternating point. This fact proved the Minmatar man's innocence. I am unaware of how the Caldari judicial system functions, though Gallante justice states that both the defendants and plaintiffs be served equal justice.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2293	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Does this really matter or are these the bickering of Caldari and Gallente? Something that shames both of your races. Because the Amarr never bicker...
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2300	Posted - 2013.10.27 06:08:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: I suppose it isn't a surprise that the Amarr can not grasp the negative implications of imperial expansion. I see the danger in their expansion due to their lack of self control and morals. See that's just it though. You see the fault in their supposed lack of morals, but not in the perversion of a foreign power subjugating an entire race. If you refer to the Lord's work then know it is a necessity rather than a matter of choice. We can not more deny the will of God than a patriotic Caldari betray his State. I see you still find a manner to twist the message of the ancient texts to fit your needs. It is a blatant manipulation of the faith.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2300	Posted - 2013.10.27 20:59:00 - [7] - Quote The Council has been corrupted by secular powers for centuries. They now serve as an easy way to shove ideas down people's throats. Rather then their original purpose of interpreting the ideals of the True Faith, in a way that benefits all.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2305	Posted - 2013.10.28 01:50:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: The Council has been corrupted by secular powers for centuries. They now serve as an easy way to shove ideas down people's throats. Rather then their original purpose of interpreting the ideals of the True Faith, in a way that benefits all. Please refrain from engaging in moral debate with the zealot. You will not win. Additionally, I doubt you have any idea what you're talking about. You underestimate me, though, little do you that I am part of a Khanid branch of the Amarr Religion. It is strictly against religious reasons for slavery.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2328	Posted - 2013.10.28 19:08:00 - [9] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You underestimate me, though, little do you that I am part of a Khanid branch of the Amarr Religion. It is strictly against religious reasons for slavery. Sigh. Soldier, the Khanid are, if anything, more gung-ho about keeping tight control on their slaves than the mainstream Amarr: the Kingdom approves of the use of transcranial microcontrollers, devices that essentially put a slave into his or her own little personal reality-- mind control via reality manipulation. If, from that, you are part of an offshoot that politically opposes slavery, fair enough. However, it seems pretty clear to this cheerful heathen that landing on the other side of a major war from the theology council (on the side of heathens, no less), would brand you a heretic-- irrevocably damned in the eyes of the Amarr. Of course, there's no shortage of similarly condemned cultists. The Amarr are so hard on heretics mostly on account of many of them being Sani Sabik. Agreed, my religion is not mainstream and it is persecuted under the Khanid Government. There are few members(that are living) and we are spread out across the galaxy. We have been trying to move to the Federation. Though, our strict rule set does not make us popular and we have had small success in the number of new members. Fortunately, the few members we have attracted are high calibre in the class society.