DUST Search - Why are vehicles a class ?

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

Many of you might remember before Uprising when you created a character, you chose a class ... I forget their names but there was Enforcer n Arbeiter n Sentinal and they dictated what class of dropsuit and relevant skills you started with.

So why is it vehicles ended up being a class of their own ? ... Why do we have people running starter fits for the sole purpose of investing into vehicle skills and to save isk to afford to use them ?

I would much rather have seen vehicles that were damn difficult to get rid of and could be a real problem for an entire team but required Caldari Assault Dropsuit skill 5 as a pre-requisite or logistics vehicles that required Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit skill 5 etc. and even Pirate Faction vehicles that required cross training such as Sansha dropship requiring Minmatar and Gallente dropship 5 for example.

This would have put vehicles to where I think they should've been ... an endgame specialisation rather than common as muck in every pub battle. They would have been something to work towards and the envy of everyone who hadn't got that far yet and would justify their pricetag with firepower and survivability of an endgame asset that you'd only see driven by people with 20+ mil sp and they'd only have just started skilling them rather than cross training other suits n maxing out other weapons.

You could have pushed AV deeper into the specialisation tree so AV grenades were a 10-15X skill requiring Flux 5 which would require Locus 5 ... and Swarms requiring Lazer and Mass Driver 5 (or whatever you think fits better) ... and Forges requiring HMG 5 etc. etc. etc. just making them more specialised than the 'alternative weapon' they are now.

I know it's probably way too late to do anything about this, since there are so many "vehicle specialists" that would cry and leave if they had to play a gun game, but I would have much preferred vehicles to have been like the Capitals of Eve ... certainly the higher level ones (maybe basic LAVs n dropships could have been available with advanced dropsuits).

Just my opinion, agree or disagree, won't make either of us right !

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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 650	Posted - 2013.10.22 16:19:00 - [1] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Many of you might remember before Uprising when you created a character, you chose a class ... I forget their names but there was Enforcer n Arbeiter n Sentinal and they dictated what class of dropsuit and relevant skills you started with. So why is it vehicles ended up being a class of their own ? ... Why do we have people running starter fits for the sole purpose of investing into vehicle skills and to save isk to afford to use them ? I would much rather have seen vehicles that were damn difficult to get rid of and could be a real problem for an entire team but required Caldari Assault Dropsuit skill 5 as a pre-requisite or logistics vehicles that required Minmatar Logistics Dropsuit skill 5 etc. and even Pirate Faction vehicles that required cross training such as Sansha dropship requiring Minmatar and Gallente dropship 5 for example. This would have put vehicles to where I think they should've been ... an endgame specialisation rather than common as muck in every pub battle. They would have been something to work towards and the envy of everyone who hadn't got that far yet and would justify their pricetag with firepower and survivability of an endgame asset that you'd only see driven by people with 20+ mil sp and they'd only have just started skilling them rather than cross training other suits n maxing out other weapons. You could have pushed AV deeper into the specialisation tree so AV grenades were a 10-15X skill requiring Flux 5 which would require Locus 5 ... and Swarms requiring Lazer and Mass Driver 5 (or whatever you think fits better) ... and Forges requiring HMG 5 etc. etc. etc. just making them more specialised than the 'alternative weapon' they are now. I know it's probably way too late to do anything about this, since there are so many "vehicle specialists" that would cry and leave if they had to play a gun game, but I would have much preferred vehicles to have been like the Capitals of Eve ... certainly the higher level ones (maybe basic LAVs n dropships could have been available with advanced dropsuits). Just my opinion, agree or disagree, won't make either of us right ! A tank driver shouldn't have to train as an infantryman to drive a tank. Just make tanks skill intensive so you have to dedicate a character to it. There is already a built in disadvantage to training tanks that will ensure not too many tanks are on the field. You can't run anything else very well so you have to run tanks or crap infantry fits. Of course the problem still remains that you can keep on training stuff in this game so there will come a time when a lot of players can run a tank. That is a problem in general that will make this game have to be constantly retooled due to skill inflation. This game needs a max sp per character to avoid the "superman" complex that will inevitably occur. Everybody can be great at everything. Already this is happening with AV weapons. Tanks are a joke now because of AV surplus among chars. I hate that EVE has this; but, EVE has many things to do, not just straight up combat.