Give all bpos ( with exception of starter fits,you can just say that their not bpos and say their freely given from corp or some other excuse that makes sense) a production rate they could do 30 suit runs (or mods weapons etc.) Starts a run when you get on for each bpo you have (including multiples of each type) this would
1 keep bpos useful
2 limit them a bit
3 make useful for player market

BPO are infinite runs.

CCP has a BPO problem? they are selling like hot cakes for $50 & $100... aurum sales are at an all time high (with NO NEW PLAYERS!)
THERE IS NO PROBLEM, except that you bought them, realize their uselessness, and know u will never get that $$$ back u so foolishly spent on a FREE GAME!

Give all bpos ( with exception of starter fits,you can just say that their not bpos and say their freely given from corp or some other excuse that makes sense) a production rate they could do 30 suit runs (or mods weapons etc.) Starts a run when you get on for each bpo you have (including multiples of each type) this would
1 keep bpos useful
2 limit them a bit
3 make useful for player market

CCP has a BPO problem? they are selling like hot cakes for $50 & $100... aurum sales are at an all time high (with NO NEW PLAYERS!)
THERE IS NO PROBLEM, except that you bought them, realize their uselessness, and know u will never get that $$$ back u so foolishly spent on a FREE GAME!

Only 1 problem with that.
Me and everyone else that bought BPO's bought infinite items not items with a counter on them. I also used money to buy mine so i want the product that i purchased.
If i wanted to buy 30 of something i wouldn't have used my cash to buy it i would have bought 30 of the thing with isk.

Seems like an interesting proposal. But any change would require the approval of every BPO holder.

They would still be infinite, but you produce 30 a day (or whatever ccp wants) and they get put into your inventory
The obly difference is they wouldn't be permanently readily available, and you could sell excess on market when it gets here

I don't really see how that would be better than the current system where you have a bpo that can be used infinantly in fittings.

Because ccp doesn't want infinite, go read their statement of removal of bpos, ots a sticky post in general discussion I think

BPOs are most definitely working as designed.

CCP wanted cash and sold infinite copies of low level items to get that cash, probably figuring that players would abandon use of them eventually as they gained the ability to use higher level gear.

CCP then significantly reduced the base stat differences between the levels of gear (there used to be a huge difference in base HP, for example), and made the remaining difference moot with a very low TTK.

That along with high prices on high level gear incentivized even experienced players to run BPO fittings because they could be nearly as effective with a huge savings.


That is now apparently occurring frequently enough to have an effect on the in-game economy. That is the part that "is not working as intended."

CCP wanted people to use them for a brief time, but they changed the game enough to make them forever attractive.

BPOs are most definitely working as designed.

CCP wanted cash and sold infinite copies of low level items to get that cash, probably figuring that players would abandon use of them eventually as they gained the ability to use higher level gear.

CCP then significantly reduced the base stat differences between the levels of gear (there used to be a huge difference in base HP, for example), and made the remaining difference moot with a very low TTK.

That along with high prices on high level gear incentivized even experienced players to run BPO fittings because they could be nearly as effective with a huge savings.


That is now apparently occurring frequently enough to have an effect on the in-game economy. That is the part that "is not working as intended."

CCP wanted people to use them for a brief time, but they changed the game enough to make them forever attractive.

Seems like an interesting proposal. But any change would require the approval of every BPO holder.

I think BPOs are important to new characters and a decent way to generate some AUR sales for CCP.

Thus, the simplest conclusion I can draw is to make BPOs Temporary

Just like we have boosters for a day/week/month, buy a BPO for a day/week/month.

Ex: Purchase an Exile assault rifle for 2000 AUR and get unlimited supply for 1 month
Purchase an Exile assault rifle for 500 AUR and get unlimited supply for 1 week
Purchase an Exile assault rifle for 100 AUR and get unlimited supply for 1 day

Maybe you need to change the name of them if the name BPO implies "unlimited to infinity forever" but I can't think of a reason this wouldn't work. Has anyone mentioned this idea already? I haven't been following the issue.

Thoughts?

The BPO problem will be non-existent once industry is tied in to Dust. There is no BPO problem. The problem is the game is unfinished.

The reality of Dust BPOs is that they are eventually going away as currently implemented.

You can ***** and moan all you want, but Dust's implementation of blueprints are incompatible with Eve's implementation of blueprints, and it is a guarantee that Eve's implementation will eventually win out.

Aurum will be useful only for boosters, cosmetics, and buying gear above your skill level.

ISK will be purchasable with real money via the existing GTC/Plex system. One PLEX can yield up to 600 million ISK, and you'll buy thousands of drop suits with that money.

This is the way it will happen.

1: 500 mil ISK

2: We don't have Plex's in Dust, but we do have boosters

3: We don't have manufacturing yet, and the way our clones work, BPO's makes sense as of now. Once we have manufacturing, and we have to actually move our ****, then it would make sense to have EVE style BPO's.

sure CCP has the right to change BPO's but 99% of the vets probably purchased them with real cash and only bought them cause they are unlimited supply. Thats what the discription sayd and how it should be. So now would you want to make 99% of the veteran players angry and take them away or change them to something REALLY stupid. And if i say "angry" i mean that players are quitting the game, people will report CCP on gaming sites for doing scams and all sorts. Nothing less then the companys image is at the stacke. There is nothing worse then stealing from players who payd hard cash on this game. I could aswell put it as betrayal to those who where supporting CCP during the beta by giving them money for merc packs.
Removing them from the market is fine. Removing them from the personal assets is a no go.

The BPO problem will be non-existent once industry is tied in to Dust. There is no BPO problem. The problem is the game is unfinished.

They will get an Aurum refund. Where is the scam? The company's image isn't at stake from a bunch of perpetual whiners, the company's image is at stake by not delivering on their promise of an integrated Eve/Dust universe. BPOs as they are currently implemented are blocking that integration.

@Meeko, you get it.

But the point is the vast majority of my BPO's were not bought with AUR, but with real cash directly. All dren gear, dragonfly assault suits and toxin AR, BPO lav. So to refund me AUR for these items is not acceptable. Some BPO's were bought with AUR such as toxinSMG and militia armour plates BPO.... These can be refunded with AUR. Not items bought directly with real $.