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Zion Shad ZionTCD 1916	Posted - 2013.10.21 22:15:00 - [1] - Quote DUST Faction Warfare In Eve Vegas the Dust DEV team talked about the removal of ISK from DFW and replacing it with LP (Loyalty Points). This will work as a 3rd currency within the game (alongside ISK & AUR) within a special section of the market. This is a good change for the overall player experience in that the player will have a faction investment and standing. So with Friendly Fire being added-on to FW you can lower your standing if you shoot a teammate. (Ill go more in to that on Podside) The mindset before was to keep the mercenary vibe for FW and not allow you to join a side, only take contracts, but the community (us) wanted it more like the system within EVE Online now it will be. During the presentation that I saw (and you have on the live stream) and what we spoke about in the round table the system looks to be a great adaptation. CCP Logibro was right in saying GÇ£FactionWarfare is going to get the love it needsGÇ¥ and Im excited to see it in action.
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1918	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:15:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zion Shad wrote: DUST Faction Warfare... It wont until we have a player market, its a terrible idea without one. Now just asking "how is that"? My point of view is I see some of these items as rewards. Why should public trade effect a reward program? Now though I just asked this question I will say that the Market and the FW changes seem to be close together in release. Then if so I guess it truly does not matter.
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1920	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:35:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zion Shad wrote: True Adamance wrote: [quote=Zion Shad]DUST Faction Warfare... It wont until we have a player market, its a terrible idea without one. Because FW will become a massive ISK sink, yet another play ground for the super rich to do what they want in, where as those who are dedicated to their factional alignment with suffer and not be able to engage in, which in being loyal makes it more their right to. Now with no ISK rewards means that either the LP rewards need to cover or be equivalent to quanitity or quality of suits and materials lost, which I sincerely hope is not the case. In this sense the rewards from LP will need to be superior and desirable to merc to get them to be a part of FW. In this case the same market in EVE should in theory develop in Dust allowing FW mercs to be self sufficient in FW and not reliant to Public matches to make their ISK. OK much better Your right about an ISK Sink being formed by taking away ISK and replacing it with LP, but the forming of an ISK Sink in DUST 514 is not new news here and I for one will welcome it here as a trade to gain LP & Standings with the Faction of my choosing. Also If balanced correctly it should not cause to much of a problem. Some of these Items will require less Skill Points then their equivalent on the current market and so will cost less in LP. There will also be Items that can only be found in the LP Store and 1 would think these Items would give you advantages though you may not have a large quantity of them
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1921	Posted - 2013.10.22 00:50:00 - [4] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Well in that case, the "middle classed" mercs will have to set aside ISK farming days to keep up the efforts. This is also might push mercs to align with corporations with tax rates to do FW so in the event they need money, they receive donations from the corporation. I know this will be something I need to manage if Anubis Prime Syndicate takes off in the direction I would like for it to go in. This is a good point. Full Corp participation in FW will increase greatly. During the RT in Vegas we talked a little on the problems of Q Syncing in FW. Hopefully this is address during or before hand in FW, because once full corps are invested then there will be a bigger connect with EVE Online. I would hope Corps will hold reimbursement programs for their members in FW
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1923	Posted - 2013.10.22 01:13:00 - [5] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: In principal I like it. On the other hand the fittings i use are diversified across all 4 factions.... I use Caldari/Amarr dropsuits, Gallente rifles, Minmatar sidearms, and Amarr ScR. I am so screwed..... Well what you use wont purly be locked down to race. Like in EVE FW you can use any Ship you want... DUST will be the same
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1925	Posted - 2013.10.22 01:36:00 - [6] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: I wonder why have isk needed for LP purchases at all... I get isk sink for when npc stuff is gone? I know eve does it but why not just LP for FW? then you won't need isk for your fits. Hmmm... Im not to sure about that but looking at this Pic and see the ISK amount posted above and the LP amount below it, yea it could look like you need both for perches http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a608/ZionShad/Image36_zpsb35ff6c9.jpg Maybe a DEV can hop on in here to clear that up
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1927	Posted - 2013.10.22 02:12:00 - [7] - Quote Dirks Macker wrote: Zion Shad wrote: True Adamance wrote: Zion Shad wrote: DUST Faction Warfare... It wont until we have a player market, its a terrible idea without one. Now just asking "how is that"? You give no details... Just a statement Because there is no way the LP will be covering the typical losses if a skirmish match. My 2 cents: They should throw in some sort of isk bonus for the winner, preferably higher the closer the system is from being flipped. Mmmm, now I see your train of thought. It's on that of other game types and that your worried FW wont be able to fund your other game types outside of it. All I can say is that you can use your FW gear anywhere and It will come down to the balance of rewards if no ISK is added. One of those dam wait and see moments
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1936	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:22:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zion Shad wrote: DUST Faction Warfare.... I THINK this LP new stuff should come with a SKILL RESPEC.I mean whats the point of having SP spent in weapons i will never be able to buy since i only play for Amarr (and seldomly Caldari) ? Respec's are coming back but it will be limited, optional and a cost attached to it
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1936	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:25:00 - [9] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Thanks man these are great, good post. I hope you don't mind but I add your pictures to my Vegas lecture notes; I didnt forget about you and told people to come here and give you some love. o7 They are open for community use and thanks for the kindness
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1936	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:28:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zion Shad wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Zion Shad wrote: DUST Faction Warfare.... I THINK this LP new stuff should come with a SKILL RESPEC.I mean whats the point of having SP spent in weapons i will never be able to buy since i only play for Amarr (and seldomly Caldari) ? Respec's are coming back but it will be limited, optional and a cost attached to it What do you know!?! We spoke on them during the round table in Vegas and it's just what I said. So it could be something AUR Bought and limited to purchase once every 3 months or something... How it's done is still being looked at, but it's safe to say youll see them again

Zion Shad ZionTCD 1938	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Also I don't suppose you could grab a picture of these supposed Drones for sale on the market screen people have been talking about? On my pic? Oh the Rouge Drones... Got ya. You've had to of seen the old pics right?
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1938	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:53:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I just want my SP back from the useless vehicles. That's all I ask. Respecs inbound soon Kirk
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1938	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:55:00 - [13] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: The only great thing about FW 2.0 is TK'ing. Prediction: CCP is going to have to turn TK'ing off within two weeks. I reckon they should do it like this: If all someone is going into FW just to be a troll and TK'ing everyone and thus being locked out from entering FW again: I think their whole account should then be locked out to stop people from creating new alt slots to get past their FW ban. What do you guys think? They will have Standings for your side... But who's not to say someone would then just keep jumping sides just to keep TK'ing up. Good thing is we are chatting on it now and hope it is noticed and addressed before to late
Zion Shad ZionTCD 1940	Posted - 2013.10.22 06:24:00 - [14] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: ("-_-) ... Dot, dot, dot. Why so gloom

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