An interesting wrinkle (but I don't want to derail the thread), but maybe Eve militias can spend LP to start one of these "trains" in a desired system/planet or increase the rewards for players that are heavily involved in taking a particular planet.

Zion

Yeah dude, not cool.

I'll give you a hint: Sometime this week you did acquire a key bit of info to help you on your path, but it was not today.

You should go ask people in FW Channels and get their opinions too. Just don't make the same mistake I did Aero.

Otherwise you'll have idiots thinking that player owned corps should have territory in FW.

What if, instead of the LP cost to deploy, described above in my previous post, was used to purchase a finite number of clones that would be used to fight or perhaps augment the number of clones spawned to fight the matches?

This would add a finite number of clones to the battle, represent EVE FW 'investment' into the battles and enhance the Eve/Dust link.

Fox I am liking where that idea is going. If you start out an Ambush match with both a 15 minute timer for the defenders to clone the attackers and the attackers having the equivalent of 8 full squad complements of clones (which turns out to be 48 clones, so the current number of 50 is a good base) and the objective to either last till the timer runs out or they, themselves, take over one of the defender's CRU's, eliminate the defending troop element, or push past a certain geographic marker with minimal contact to place a beacon for the friendly force's CRU, that could be a good beach head assault.

But then the question comes in whether or not the vehicles (specifically I am thinking of an air assault operation using multiple dropships, which would work better in skirmish 1.0 - ground war) should be allowed and what are we to do about the redline? Personally I think the redline in FW should be removed and some lateral movement should be allowed for the sake of simulating a more accurate and functional military operation. But this brings to question; what is the purpose of this particular beachhead assault? Is it to harass the enemy into shifting their forces to open gaps in other districts, is it an attempt at logistical disruption, or is it blitzkrieg? If it is the last, why would it start in assault, when en-mass zergs would throw everything they have at the enemy?

This seems to point towards strategic operational planning which means the player should have a functional and accurate map int he war barge. Without a basic understanding of the terrain of the district, mind you no the exact placement of installations rather the sockets and buildings, would allow for the commanders of the ground operation to choose between a couple of modes per-say: hit&run harassment, logistical disruption (sabotage), or full-scale military operational push (i.e., taking the district). This I feel would add to the complexity of the meta game.

I'm barely keeping up with it myself, lots of people commenting! Very glad people are liking this, and some people have come up with some great ideas to expand upon this.

For the attackers to win, there would have to be at least 4 battles on that district (Ambush, Ambush OMS, Skrimish, Domination). Now lets say for argument that there's a little bit of back and forth between the teams, so about 6 battles per district. Even though each one is only 15 minutes, the length of time that you are fighting on the district is much longer. And then once you finish attacking that district, you either move onto another district on that same planet or the next nearest planet if you already went through all districts on that specific planet. The EVE pilots would have plenty of time to provide orbital support. The only thing extending the warbarge timer would do is provider longer delays where EVE pilots cannot provide orbital support.

That's exactly my point, and when you get there you'll have plenty of time to support the battle and it would be very easy to follow the battle as the move to new districts.

Well yeah even if there isn't an active FW battle eve side, ships will amass for orbitals! If you don't want orbitals to be dropped on your team you need gel breathers to get air suppeririority! Then if we could find away of skyfires being used in the same way we would become more mercenary like!

There needs to be some plan, some path that new and small corporations can follow to play in this space. I'm trying real hard to see this "big picture", but just not seeing how to even get bootstrapped into what currently exists.

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