Attim I was starting to like you.... then this....

Auto Locking double DPS weapons that are fire and forget do not deserve to be, nor should have the capability to solo HAV. We need to reach a point of balance where players actually want to deploy tanks to the map, this way we get the fights that we see in trailers.....

However as you and many others would have it. AV dominates the map with no downsides nor need to leave the red line granting free 150 + 50 WP at regular intervals for doing nothing.

Your 500K SP, and 300K ISK investment is denying dynamic gameplay and destroying 10+ Million SP, and destroying 1-2 Million SP vehicles with too much ease.

Swarm Lock time needs an increase, fire rate needs to remain the same, with swarms not making 180- degree turns and able to be unlocked by terrain and such.

I think what you are looking for is called a Forge Gun.

Edit... this original post is bad. Let them buff tanks and dropships. Lets see how it goes.. FFS they have been relatively underpowered for a looong time. Give them something to look forward to and changes can be a good thing. Right now it is not a big challenge to take a tank out of the equation either by blowing it up or making it run for the hills.

CCP wants Vehicles to kill vehicles.

This means that AV is a suppression tactic. Run solo, you will be suppressing. If you want to kill vehicles with AV, you'll need to coordinate.

Tankers actually use far more skill than AV will ever have to. I'd say pilots too, but they die too quick for their skill to be relevant. As someone who owns prototype AV and plenty of vehicles I can safely say that AV as is takes extremely little skill. If you work as a squad, it basically requires no skill.

1.) Hardly. Your argument lacks substance on this one. That's like saying. I use and ScR, but and AR user can kill me at any time. I use an HMG, but an AR user can kill me at any time. But what you not taking into account are the benefits of infantry vs a vehicle, in your case the capacity to easily traverse complex terrain features and make use of the hard cover it provides.

2.) Yup but do your dropsuits at standard level cost 200K ISK a pop, do your turrets or weapons cost you 500K Isk to be effective. No it does not. You can field 5-10 suits against one tank that I can field.

3.) Redline snipers are ******* cowards and should not be able to shoot in the Red Line. End of.

Will agree somewhat it 1 and 3. But 2 is a big ******* no.

One 1 It means you can make use of internal, or vertical coiver both are things tanks cannot deal with, that inherently give you a very distinct advantage. You under estimate the SMG greatly. Though you do as as previous poster mentioned skill into the infantry tree with AV being a sub class. HAV are a full class, we have no other options like you guys do, who can turn around and pull a GEK at the drop of a hat.

I just have a quick question here about the whole tank vs AV debate, and let me preface it by saying that I would love for it to be balanced completely. I have also never messed with driving a tank and have my swarm skill up to level 3. My perspective for this is coming from playing pub matches as well, so don't apply it to PC since that is quite different.

In my experience, running around with adv swarms with two adv damage mods is still relatively useless against most tanks that I would come across on the battlefield. They either just don't care that I'm there or they scurry away and I can't do anything about it. Again I have not used tanks and perhaps it does take an immense amount of skill to drive a tank at high speeds back into the hills. I rarely even pull out my swarms since they are so ineffective at destroying tanks, the best that I can usually hope for is just to bother the tanker enough that he just runs away and recalls out of fear that he MIGHT lose his tank.

The problems in my experience from an infantry perspective are as follows:
-Tanks are just too fast to be able to destroy. I can get their health down but they can always get away before I can kill them.
-Tanks are too expensive for what they provide. Tank drivers are too worried about losing their precious tanks and therefore behave quite cautiously/selfishly rather than helping their team. On the flip side using price as an argument is pretty ridiculous as well since just because a proto AV fit only costs 200k they are still a lot more likely to get killed trying to kill a tank since they are giving up their anti-personnel capabilities. Despite all of the whining, AV isn't necessarily a bargain compared to tanking.
-Recalling a vehicle is a ridiculous mechanic. I don't think that it should be removed completely, but it should be a much more high risk proposition than it currently is. It should involve and RDV coming down to slowly pick it up or something. As it is now every time a tank gets low they just hurry away and recall and don't have to worry about a thing (other than random teammates sitting in a turret and not getting out).
-If tankers get their way and say that it should require an army to take them down, then AV weapons should be equally effective against infantry. It's not fair to make yourself completely vulnerable to infantry in an effort to take down a tank if you still don't have a chance at killing it alone.
-Once you get more than one tank in a match it is pretty much unbearable to play against as they can't really be stopped without coordination, which you aren't going to get in a pub match.
-Rail sniping is a joke. There is no way to destroy a rail tank in the redline before they just reverse down the hill and out of sight. Again I haven't tried it, but I guess it's just a way for people that aren't good enough to play as infantry or a real tanker to still get some WP.

the only effective way to kill a redline tank that i've found so far is a well timed orbital combined with AV and/or an ADS swooping don on the thing either just before/after the strike or during the strike itself. which means that if the tank is under the MCC it isn't dying, period.

because LOLav force us to redline snipe

what protoav do you use?

Ishukone Assault Forge Gun, proficiency 3 right now

I would also use Lai Dai AV nades but proto grenades are impossible to fit on a heavy without gimping the rest of your fit, or so I find. I could just be doing it wrong.