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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:01:00 -
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I was here for really long time (through 4 ingame personas) and what really concerns me is how CCP working on title. Normaly if you have Beta and open beta its "last stage" of core devs job. But no for CCP. There is no place for some blind fanboyism, im objective how i can be and i dont want break it through some "Soon" or "horizont" or "thats with every game development" B*shates.
I want just answer, direct answers.
1.)Why CCP talking here about full release ?! (no full racial suits/arms done, technical difficulties, glitches and bugs in big time) 2.)Why CCP dont giving us pure info about upcoming things ?! (Soon, Horizont etc.) 3.)Do CCP have some ACTUALL plan or schedule ?! (Pullbacks, Changed patches and Implements, broken balancing etc.) 4.)Why CCP Lying and making empty promises ?! (Implementation of new stuff, what is pushed back with something else.) 5.) Why CCP making weapons and items without some try out before (Mechanics of weapons are pure nonsece.) 6.)Why CCP dont put whole their power to optimilization of title (Frame drops, Graphic loading responce etc.) 7.)Why CCP is not objective about game overall and promote it like issuefree title (Wikipedia and periodics)
This is just serious asking, no some rant. Im just interesting how devs see their game with their mind. First of all, how i told higher, i dont want some fanboyism or PR talks. I want just pure true with all honest, with data and with facts. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:13:00 -
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Lol, get in line. You have now joined an elite group of players who want answers known as EVERYBODY! |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:17:00 -
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I don't see why any game dev needs to explain themselves either play the game or don't. You don't play games for possible enjoyment in the future u play games to enjoy yourself as ur playing.
I don't get gamers anymore ur stange people |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:17:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Lol, get in line. You have now joined an elite group of players who want answers known as EVERYBODY!
I dont know its elite to want just know. Reall issue with CCP is if they dont have answers they just want avoid question with some "nontalking" nonsece. What is really funny if you take it for compare with some philosophic way what was introduced by them. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:20:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I don't see why any game dev needs to explain themselves either play the game or don't. You don't play games for possible enjoyment in the future u play games to enjoy yourself as ur playing.
I don't get gamers anymore ur stange people
I see some problems, for what i want answers. Why they making empty promises. Why they just dont do what they promise?! Its easy. |
Humble Seeker
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:20:00 -
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Well, you can always hope, but expecting them to answer you is a little foolhardy, seeing as how they are a company, after all.
Game companies in particular tend to leave their players guessing until they release content, it's sort of a business thing.
But I feel you, really. I just have to be patient like everyone else and wait for my heavy las -- eh, content. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:23:00 -
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Humble Seeker wrote:Well, you can always hope, but expecting them to answer you is a little foolhardy, seeing as how they are a company, after all.
Game companies in particular tend to leave their players guessing until they release content, it's sort of a business thing.
But I feel you, really. I just have to be patient like everyone else and wait for my heavy las -- eh, content.
Ill be rather for fool, but with answer and clear shield. Companies making games for us, gamers are not made for them. Honestly im really dissapointed by their strategy (lying, promising and after just waitning till "water will be calm"). |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:27:00 -
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Expecting an answer from ccp is like hoping to win the lottery... twice... in one day... |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:28:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I don't see why any game dev needs to explain themselves either play the game or don't. You don't play games for possible enjoyment in the future u play games to enjoy yourself as ur playing.
I don't get gamers anymore ur stange people I see some problems, for what i want answers. Why they making empty promises. Why they just dont do what they promise?! Its easy.
Make a server client calculator in. Net and then come back and tell me it is easy. All the software u need is free and online |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:30:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:Expecting an answer from ccp is like hoping to win the lottery... twice... in one day...
Ill be hoping, but i will know i ask. If they do not answer thats just another sign for me about thay company overall. (Honestly i never saw something similar, EA answere, Activision answered even small teams like meteor/adhesive from Hawken answered). |
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I don't see why any game dev needs to explain themselves either play the game or don't. You don't play games for possible enjoyment in the future u play games to enjoy yourself as ur playing.
I don't get gamers anymore ur stange people I see some problems, for what i want answers. Why they making empty promises. Why they just dont do what they promise?! Its easy. Make a server client calculator in. Net and then come back and tell me it is easy. All the software u need is free and online
Calculator dont aswer my question to them. |
Evolution-8
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:46:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:I was here for really long time (through 4 ingame personas) and what really concerns me is how CCP working on title. Normaly if you have Beta and open beta its "last stage" of core devs job. But no for CCP. There is no place for some blind fanboyism, im objective how i can be and i dont want break it through some "Soon" or "horizont" or "thats with every game development" B*shates.
I want just answer, direct answers.
1.)Why CCP talking here about full release ?! (no full racial suits/arms done, technical difficulties, glitches and bugs in big time) 2.)Why CCP dont giving us pure info about upcoming things ?! (Soon, Horizont etc.) 3.)Do CCP have some ACTUALL plan or schedule ?! (Pullbacks, Changed patches and Implements, broken balancing etc.) 4.)Why CCP Lying and making empty promises ?! (Implementation of new stuff, what is pushed back with something else.) 5.) Why CCP making weapons and items without some try out before (Mechanics of weapons are pure nonsece, bombardment what killing just enemy etc.) 6.)Why CCP dont put whole their power to optimilization of title (Frame drops, Graphic loading responce etc.) 7.)Why CCP is not objective about game overall and promote it like issuefree title (Wikipedia and periodics)
This is just serious asking, no some rant. Im just interesting how devs see their game with their mind. First of all, how i told higher, i dont want some fanboyism or PR talks. I want just pure true with all honest, with data and with facts.
Its simple.
They simply don't know what they are doing. They have an idea of were they like to go but as anyone that has played this game for awhile knows, they've lost their road map, but hopefully the new producer has written up a new one and set them on their marry way to their goal.
You won't get an official answer any time soon, since that will force CCP to admit that they have done something wrong and if you studied business, you know its 101 to not admit that you're wrong. |
steadyhand amarr
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 17:53:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I don't see why any game dev needs to explain themselves either play the game or don't. You don't play games for possible enjoyment in the future u play games to enjoy yourself as ur playing.
I don't get gamers anymore ur stange people I see some problems, for what i want answers. Why they making empty promises. Why they just dont do what they promise?! Its easy. Make a server client calculator in. Net and then come back and tell me it is easy. All the software u need is free and online Calculator dont aswer my question to them.
yes it does because you clearly have no clue how hard programing is |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.21 18:11:00 -
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It's just the way how CCP operates. It's weird, I know. But technically there is no officially-established norm written in stone in entire gaming industry on how games should be developed. So CCP is free to develop this game however they see fit. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:40:00 -
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Evolution-8 wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:I was here for really long time (through 4 ingame personas) and what really concerns me is how CCP working on title. Normaly if you have Beta and open beta its "last stage" of core devs job. But no for CCP. There is no place for some blind fanboyism, im objective how i can be and i dont want break it through some "Soon" or "horizont" or "thats with every game development" B*shates.
I want just answer, direct answers.
1.)Why CCP talking here about full release ?! (no full racial suits/arms done, technical difficulties, glitches and bugs in big time) 2.)Why CCP dont giving us pure info about upcoming things ?! (Soon, Horizont etc.) 3.)Do CCP have some ACTUALL plan or schedule ?! (Pullbacks, Changed patches and Implements, broken balancing etc.) 4.)Why CCP Lying and making empty promises ?! (Implementation of new stuff, what is pushed back with something else.) 5.) Why CCP making weapons and items without some try out before (Mechanics of weapons are pure nonsece, bombardment what killing just enemy etc.) 6.)Why CCP dont put whole their power to optimilization of title (Frame drops, Graphic loading responce etc.) 7.)Why CCP is not objective about game overall and promote it like issuefree title (Wikipedia and periodics)
This is just serious asking, no some rant. Im just interesting how devs see their game with their mind. First of all, how i told higher, i dont want some fanboyism or PR talks. I want just pure true with all honest, with data and with facts. Its simple. They simply don't know what they are doing. They have an idea of were they like to go but as anyone that has played this game for awhile knows, they've lost their road map, but hopefully the new producer has written up a new one and set them on their marry way to their goal. You won't get an official answer any time soon, since that will force CCP to admit that they have done something wrong and if you studied business, you know its 101 to not admit that you're wrong.
Exactly, why they still behave like everything is just fine, thast reason why i start this thread. They dont have answers and they will not answer anything, for me its just another sigh of how they-¦re lost. Whats is even more sad, how they just dont care. They should admit they were wrong in many thingies and they dont want to do that, what shows how spinless they are. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:It's just the way how CCP operates. It's weird, I know. But technically there is no officially-established norm written in stone in entire gaming industry on how games should be developed. So CCP is free to develop this game however they see fit.
I will take that like answer, when there will be any progress seen in game. For now they just releasing more and more promises. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:05:00 -
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I don't see why people think CCP owes them anything at all... but of entitled whiny *****. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:17:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:I was here for really long time (through 4 ingame personas) and what really concerns me is how CCP working on title. Normaly if you have Beta and open beta its "last stage" of core devs job. But no for CCP. There is no place for some blind fanboyism, im objective how i can be and i dont want break it through some "Soon" or "horizont" or "thats with every game development" B*shates.
I want just answer, direct answers.
1.)Why CCP talking here about full release ?! (no full racial suits/arms done, technical difficulties, glitches and bugs in big time) 2.)Why CCP dont giving us pure info about upcoming things ?! (Soon, Horizont etc.) 3.)Do CCP have some ACTUALL plan or schedule ?! (Pullbacks, Changed patches and Implements, broken balancing etc.) 4.)Why CCP Lying and making empty promises ?! (Implementation of new stuff, what is pushed back with something else.) 5.) Why CCP making weapons and items without some try out before (Mechanics of weapons are pure nonsece, bombardment what killing just enemy etc.) 6.)Why CCP dont put whole their power to optimilization of title (Frame drops, Graphic loading responce etc.) 7.)Why CCP is not objective about game overall and promote it like issuefree title (Wikipedia and periodics)
This is just serious asking, no some rant. Im just interesting how devs see their game with their mind. First of all, how i told higher, i dont want some fanboyism or PR talks. I want just pure true with all honest, with data and with facts.
1. Its an mmo, world of warcraft didn't launch with death knights even though they had the class somewhat planned and designed for a long time. Both factions didn't have a full job lineup either. Secondly its a human creation, imperfections are in just about every game. Want proof? type in popular game you like quite a bit and then the word glitch afterwards. You'll be surprised at things that get recorded. Most recent massive bad glitch I heard of was pokemon x/y wiping saves.
2. Every time they do, people on pretend its a promised features and get all butt hurt it hasn't been put out yet and then they get angry when development happens.
3. Yes the current roadmap has about 2 or 3 more months on its schedule, the new EP is drafting a new roadmap for beyond that soon, the community team is working on making something very visible so you guys can track progress.
4. See 2
5. Under discussion atm as part of the new NPE process development. There is going to be an interesting in the near future so stay tuned for that one.
6. See 1 and 2 and your own OP and your own 4.
7. It's CCP, when several game magazines goes to fan fest and the game they're most interested game is world of darkness, a game which even doesn't have game play footage yet... you have to sorta figure out there is something wrong with the press at times. Its like not a single one of our expansions appear on any magazine just about, yet a 2 map DLC for call of duty hogs front page attention. Either way its best CCP focus on game development and sell on selling the game. If the game gets good enough it will sell itself.
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Drifter MAGGOT
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:21:00 -
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What's this post about again? I honestly forgot and don't want to scroll up and look at all of the BS. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:26:00 -
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Drifter MAGGOT wrote:What's this post about again? I honestly forgot and don't want to scroll up and look at all of the BS.
This is a thread about a guy who doesn't like ccp runs its business but doesn't understand why its ran that way. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:50:00 -
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Welcome to DUST in a nutshell. Don't know how long you've been around but it's been like this forever... I mean like literally since closed beta. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:53:00 -
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How i told upper i want stright answer from CCP, not fanboyism and PR nonsence. @Saber: WoW is MMORPG (release less bugs and issues), Dust is just Multiplayer FPS withou any scence of MMO at all (big amount of issues, bugs and unbalance) |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:54:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Welcome to DUST in a nutshell. Don't know how long you've been around but it's been like this forever... I mean like literally since closed beta.
I was here from closed Beta. And how i can see, there is not too much of progress. Just some implementations. Still neverending nonsence in weapons and balance etc. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:17:00 -
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Whether we like it or not its a free to play game, you signed the electronic agreement like everyone else and if I'd put this much effort into making a game and saw someone whining like I owe them something I'd ignore it as well lol. Besides they have stated countless times how soonGäó things will be for release and there is a 10 year road map, of which we have roughly 8 years I think.
We just have to continue being patient, give more feedback and troll the forums more, but mainly be patient. |
Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:42:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Whether we like it or not its a free to play game, you signed the electronic agreement like everyone else and if I'd put this much effort into making a game and saw someone whining like I owe them something I'd ignore it as well lol. Besides they have stated countless times how soonGäó things will be for release and there is a 10 year road map, of which we have roughly 8 years I think.
We just have to continue being patient, give more feedback and troll the forums more, but mainly be patient.
Boyo i dont trust them, i pressume its better leave DUST 514 (full release) for some better game like Beta of Hawken for example (that game is in beta stadium and contains more modes, more coop and less issues of anykind, that this programed nonsence) (Btw soon - trademark is from Blacklight:Retributon, what is another free2play game by Zombie studio - Blacklight: Tango Down on Ps3 systems, why i just take it up. With Zombie studio i knew if it soon it will be really soon, not like with lying CCP what dont even have guts to answer few questions na making empty promises) |
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