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meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 06:04:00 -
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Some one else feels a little bit down? I was expecting nothing and I'm still a little disappointed (how is this even possible?). Maybe I just oversee something, can you guys cheer me up a little? My major points aren't in the spotlight of CCP, I some how always knew that but I could see anything new and interesting.
Except the little history about Dust there were only future talk (like far in the future) and the assurance that there is no PVE soon and no focus on PS4 ever. |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2042
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Posted - 2013.10.21 06:11:00 -
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What's getting me really sad faced is the lack of faith people have in CCP. I know they screw up every now and again, but don't we all; afterall weGÇÖre only human! I have known CCP for 7 years now and they are a great bunch of people let alone game developers.
Anyway I was really excited that they even decided to talk about it and IGÇÖm still excited because IGÇÖm going to be laughing in the faces of the people who gave up on dust and my character will be one of the higher level players and those who QQ'd will have wished they didn't give up on it! |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 06:23:00 -
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I'm with CCP for some years now. But this time, I'm not feeling like waiting for a couple of years for them to make things right. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3750
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Posted - 2013.10.21 06:26:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Some one else feels a little bit down? I was expecting nothing and I'm still a little disappointed (how is this even possible?). Maybe I just oversee something, can you guys cheer me up a little? My major points aren't in the spotlight of CCP, I some how always knew that but I could see anything new and interesting.
Except the little history about Dust there were only future talk (like far in the future) and the assurance that there is no PVE soon and no focus on PS4 ever. They didn't say never, numbnuts. Reid specifically said that they're going to focus on the platform they're on right now before branching out to other ones.
In no way did that mean never. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 06:31:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:meri jin wrote:Some one else feels a little bit down? I was expecting nothing and I'm still a little disappointed (how is this even possible?). Maybe I just oversee something, can you guys cheer me up a little? My major points aren't in the spotlight of CCP, I some how always knew that but I could see anything new and interesting.
Except the little history about Dust there were only future talk (like far in the future) and the assurance that there is no PVE soon and no focus on PS4 ever. They didn't say never, numbnuts. Reid specifically said that they're going to focus on the platform they're on right now before branching out to other ones. In no way did that mean never.
You are right, I need to fix that. Still it sounds like they have not spend a minute engineering. The 80 Million PS3s will not work for CCP btw. |
Jason Punk
DUST University Ivy League
270
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Posted - 2013.10.21 09:36:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Some one else feels a little bit down? I was expecting nothing and I'm still a little disappointed (how is this even possible?). Maybe I just oversee something, can you guys cheer me up a little? My major points aren't in the spotlight of CCP, I some how always knew that but I could see anything new and interesting.
Except the little history about Dust there were only future talk (like far in the future) and the assurance that there is no PVE soon and no focus on PS4 for now.
Not sure if I can give Christmas cheer, but despite all the despair and gloom we can get here and there, I've actually felt like things have gradually been getting better and better. The two things I've harped on for a while now have been open market and the "link" (specifically in the ability to board ships or stations). Their focus on making Dust 514 an 'MMO-ier is exactly what I see as the right move. Gameplay is well and good, but the experience is what divides a good shooter in the marketplace of FPS's. They all are extremely similar in many ways, but what distinguishes them is in the ways they tend to empower players in their worlds.
GTA/Fallout/etc - roaming, depth, narrative Quake/Unreal - simple, classic, competitive Left4Dead/****-Zombies - Survival, Horror, Co-Op BF/CoD/Halo - Competitive, Fast-Paced, Polished, Expansive Multiplayer
They all feature FPS mechanics, assists, weapon stats, competitive communities and general FPS necessities, but what is missing is something vicereal; They lack the pain and reward of choices and even more so, real choice with real people.
Dust 514 is not there and probably will struggle to get there for some time. It's a new kid on the block and kind of antisocial, but it's my hope that we can get to a point where we feel the emotional depth of personal victory, united accomplishment, and of course that twisted betrayal. Don't give up on it, just pace with it. Take it a few matches at a time. Over this whole time, it's really just been the people in the universe of Eve that have made the whole thing worth it
Don't give up on us my friend
<3 Jason |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1100
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:06:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:What's getting me really sad faced is the lack of faith people have in CCP. I know they screw up every now and again, but don't we all; afterall weGÇÖre only human! I have known CCP for 7 years now and they are a great bunch of people let alone game developers.
Anyway I was really excited that they even decided to talk about it and IGÇÖm still excited because IGÇÖm going to be laughing in the faces of the people who gave up on dust and my character will be one of the higher level players and those who QQ'd will have wished they didn't give up on it! Isn't the Dust dev team different from the EVE dev team? |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:16:00 -
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They did say most of the missing Gear and suits were ready and should be released to players soon (not tm), something about 1.8. But they're waiting till they can release it in one big push. There were some screenshots with the new market interface which included a player market and an outline for integrating Dust and EVE further, using PC, in which EVE pilots pilot the warbarge from Stations to planet for PC battles, with all the dangers of piloting something big and expensive through lowsec. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
438
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:19:00 -
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1.8 will be nothing but them fixing the coms lol |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:20:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Lt Royal wrote:What's getting me really sad faced is the lack of faith people have in CCP. I know they screw up every now and again, but don't we all; afterall weGÇÖre only human! I have known CCP for 7 years now and they are a great bunch of people let alone game developers.
Anyway I was really excited that they even decided to talk about it and IGÇÖm still excited because IGÇÖm going to be laughing in the faces of the people who gave up on dust and my character will be one of the higher level players and those who QQ'd will have wished they didn't give up on it! Isn't the Dust dev team different from the EVE dev team?
Yes. I think two people are from the original EVE Team, tey moved to Shanghai to release EVE on the Chinese marked. |
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Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 14:51:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:What's getting me really sad faced is the lack of faith people have in CCP. I know they screw up every now and again, but don't we all; afterall weGÇÖre only human! I have known CCP for 7 years now and they are a great bunch of people let alone game developers.
Anyway I was really excited that they even decided to talk about it and IGÇÖm still excited because IGÇÖm going to be laughing in the faces of the people who gave up on dust and my character will be one of the higher level players and those who QQ'd will have wished they didn't give up on it!
Doesn't matter how much SP you have you still suck
Munch |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7082
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:00:00 -
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All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec. |
Himiko Kuronaga
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
1962
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:02:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec.
You mean the one you are not getting?
Yes, I can confirm that one exists. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7082
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:16:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec. You mean the one you are not getting? Yes, I can confirm that one exists. No just to confirm how the CCP guy said we're getting respecs soon. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
267
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:meri jin wrote:Some one else feels a little bit down? I was expecting nothing and I'm still a little disappointed (how is this even possible?). Maybe I just oversee something, can you guys cheer me up a little? My major points aren't in the spotlight of CCP, I some how always knew that but I could see anything new and interesting.
Except the little history about Dust there were only future talk (like far in the future) and the assurance that there is no PVE soon and no focus on PS4 ever. They didn't say never, numbnuts. Reid specifically said that they're going to focus on the platform they're on right now before branching out to other ones. In no way did that mean never.
I shall translate since you both don't seem to get the Legaleese hidden inside. "We are unable to make any transitional claims until our PS3 exclusivity contract runs out." Meaning they could be already making and implementing such plans (or none at all) but cannot say it publicly due to legal constraints. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
508
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:47:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Lt Royal wrote:What's getting me really sad faced is the lack of faith people have in CCP. I know they screw up every now and again, but don't we all; afterall weGÇÖre only human! I have known CCP for 7 years now and they are a great bunch of people let alone game developers.
Anyway I was really excited that they even decided to talk about it and IGÇÖm still excited because IGÇÖm going to be laughing in the faces of the people who gave up on dust and my character will be one of the higher level players and those who QQ'd will have wished they didn't give up on it! Doesn't matter how much SP you have you still suck Munch
Another fan of mine.
Munch |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:00:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:They did say most of the missing Gear and suits were ready and should be released to players soon (not tm), something about 1.8. But they're waiting till they can release it in one big push. There were some screenshots with the new market interface which included a player market and an outline for integrating Dust and EVE further, using PC, in which EVE pilots pilot the warbarge from Stations to planet for PC battles, with all the dangers of piloting something big and expensive through lowsec. Cool! I am very experienced at moving things through Low Sec. Bookmarked locations in space, scouting adjacent systems, defensive fleets, intel... This could be very good for both games. But it will need something to make PC worth the effort on EVE side. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
733
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:22:00 -
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player trading, full set of racial gear and dropsuits, pc 2.0, fw 2.0, lp store and standing. market being prioritized.
what's not to love? |
Jason Punk
DUST University Ivy League
271
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Posted - 2013.10.21 18:46:00 -
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low genius wrote:player trading, full set of racial gear and dropsuits, pc 2.0, fw 2.0, lp store and standing. market being prioritized.
what's not to love?
Yeah, I mean I'm kind of trying to figure out all the negativity. I mean, so what...it's the most explicit update we've had in some time. Go kill stomp around and enjoy life, eh? |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 05:13:00 -
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Jason Punk wrote:Yeah, I mean I'm kind of trying to figure out all the negativity. ...
Don't know man, I guess I was hoping for a miracle. Seeing CCP going on the stage and saying something like: "We know that you all have been asking for contend, and here it is, enjoy it in the upcoming patch and beyond." This isn't to much to ask isn't it?
Turn out this is probably going to happen:
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I wouldn't say based on would be a good analogy but more like that is the best mantra to describe the weapon's performance.
But so an assault plasma rifle is a bit redundant but possible still.
1.6 as stated is to be mostly a technical debt paying patch. 1.7 is going to have content but what sort not known yet.
Again a "technical debt paying patch" so it seems. source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1413669#post1413669 |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4658
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Posted - 2013.10.22 05:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec. You mean the one you are not getting? Yes, I can confirm that one exists. No just to confirm how the CCP guy said we're getting respecs soon.
Where did this CCP guy say that exactly?
Was it mentioned in the Eve Vegas presentation? If so, how far into the video can I see it?
If I don't get a solid link to proof, I will disregard your post as rumor. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
433
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Posted - 2013.10.22 05:39:00 -
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What troubled me the most is the lack of enthusiasm, conviction and passion from the devs. They looked defeated, and their presentation was lackluster. I'm looking forward to all that they want to do with FW, PC and the market, but they described things in such broad terms it feels like it could be a very long time before we see any of this stuff. I would have liked to hear more about and see preview images/video of the new content planned like the missing racial suits/weapons/vehicles. Why couldn't they show us their latest mockups for Amarr & Minmatar vehicles? I assume they exist. Why not show off some of the things we should be seeing in the next few months? |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 05:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec. You mean the one you are not getting? Yes, I can confirm that one exists. No just to confirm how the CCP guy said we're getting respecs soon. Where did this CCP guy say that exactly? Was it mentioned in the Eve Vegas presentation? If so, how far into the video can I see it? If I don't get a solid link to proof, I will disregard your post as rumor.
Never heard of a respec myself. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
280
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:11:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:All I want is an official confirmation of the upcoming respec. You mean the one you are not getting? Yes, I can confirm that one exists. No just to confirm how the CCP guy said we're getting respecs soon. Where did this CCP guy say that exactly? Was it mentioned in the Eve Vegas presentation? If so, how far into the video can I see it? If I don't get a solid link to proof, I will disregard your post as rumor. Never heard of a respec myself.
I can confirm that Fiend is right about CCP mentioning something about a respec, what we do not know is if it will be partial/for vehicles only/for racial suits & vehicles/full respec.. still waiting for an official statement from CCP.
Edit: damn you, cellphone! |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 06:33:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:
I can confirm that Fiend is right about CCP mentioning something about a respec, what we do not know is if it will be partial/for vehicles only/for racial suits & vehicles/full respec.. still waiting for an official statement from CCP.
Edit: damn you, cellphone!
It make sense. If you skilled sniper rifle, and they add new one, you might geht your SP back. Right now there is no separation between the 4 possible. Only the "sniper rifle". Shotgun would fit in the same structure. But the AR and Suits are already separated. right?
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
281
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Posted - 2013.10.22 07:22:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:
I can confirm that Fiend is right about CCP mentioning something about a respec, what we do not know is if it will be partial/for vehicles only/for racial suits & vehicles/full respec.. still waiting for an official statement from CCP.
Edit: damn you, cellphone!
It make sense. If you skilled sniper rifle, and they add new one, you might geht your SP back. Right now there is no separation between the 4 possible. Only the "sniper rifle". Shotgun would fit in the same structure. But the AR and Suits are already separated. right?
I think CCP will focus on giving us the option to respec parts of the skill tree that are expanded with new content. But I hope they have a good plan on how to do this efficiently. Last skill refund went smooth with the reload skill revamp, hovever, the full respec petition was pretty poorly executed... |
Phazoid
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
79
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Posted - 2013.10.22 08:10:00 -
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i dont know bout you but every time i play other games like COD of bf3, i fell something is missing, maybe that slight fear of losing money by dying, or those adrenalines rushes at hairy times, because lets be clear on something, in cod or bf you kill and get killed in half a sec, its a i spot first get kills style, while dust offers the chance to do amazing incredible stuff, i cant count how many times someone got a jumo on me and i killed them, and viceversa, while on other games is just i saw you press the button for 0.3seg your dead, but i will stay on dust, no other FPS has the same felling to it, and when dust goes through and really evolves i will be there scouting and shotgunning everyone |
Raz Warsaw
Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder.
35
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Posted - 2013.10.22 08:35:00 -
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1.7 was confirmed to be the release of the combat & rail rifle |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 08:35:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:i dont know bout you but every time i play other games like COD of bf3, i fell something is missing, maybe that slight fear of losing money by dying, or those adrenalines rushes at hairy times, because lets be clear on something, in cod or bf you kill and get killed in half a sec, its a i spot first get kills style, while dust offers the chance to do amazing incredible stuff, i cant count how many times someone got a jumo on me and i killed them, and viceversa, while on other games is just i saw you press the button for 0.3seg your dead, but i will stay on dust, no other FPS has the same felling to it, and when dust goes through and really evolves i will be there scouting and shotgunning everyone
Heh. Nice speech :). Yeah CoD feels empty that is true. I'M not going to leave Dust for another CoD clone. I wold leave Dust because it's still so damn incomplete and bad performance (probably hardware limitation). |
Phazoid
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
80
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Posted - 2013.10.22 09:13:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Phazoid wrote:i dont know bout you but every time i play other games like COD of bf3, i fell something is missing, maybe that slight fear of losing money by dying, or those adrenalines rushes at hairy times, because lets be clear on something, in cod or bf you kill and get killed in half a sec, its a i spot first get kills style, while dust offers the chance to do amazing incredible stuff, i cant count how many times someone got a jumo on me and i killed them, and viceversa, while on other games is just i saw you press the button for 0.3seg your dead, but i will stay on dust, no other FPS has the same felling to it, and when dust goes through and really evolves i will be there scouting and shotgunning everyone Heh. Nice speech :). Yeah CoD feels empty that is true. I'M not going to leave Dust for another CoD clone. I wold leave Dust because it's still so damn incomplete and bad performance (probably hardware limitation).
give it time, the game is evolving rapidly and we as a community should too, when unprising 1 came, a host of bugs and problems came with it, and now many of the problems are solved, sure content is missing, but it will come, and soon too, and in 6 months from now think of what we could have or be waiting for, no FPS will be at the lvl of dust since it already has things that no other fps has |
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meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.22 09:25:00 -
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Phazoid wrote:meri jin wrote:Phazoid wrote:i dont know bout you but every time i play other games like COD of bf3, i fell something is missing, maybe that slight fear of losing money by dying, or those adrenalines rushes at hairy times, because lets be clear on something, in cod or bf you kill and get killed in half a sec, its a i spot first get kills style, while dust offers the chance to do amazing incredible stuff, i cant count how many times someone got a jumo on me and i killed them, and viceversa, while on other games is just i saw you press the button for 0.3seg your dead, but i will stay on dust, no other FPS has the same felling to it, and when dust goes through and really evolves i will be there scouting and shotgunning everyone Heh. Nice speech :). Yeah CoD feels empty that is true. I'M not going to leave Dust for another CoD clone. I wold leave Dust because it's still so damn incomplete and bad performance (probably hardware limitation). give it time, the game is evolving rapidly and we as a community should too, when unprising 1 came, a host of bugs and problems came with it, and now many of the problems are solved, sure content is missing, but it will come, and soon too, and in 6 months from now think of what we could have or be waiting for, no FPS will be at the lvl of dust since it already has things that no other fps has
True. On the other hand here are shooters like Destiny and The District waiting in 2014 to raid the Market on new AND current gen systems. I have Destiny in pre-order and Beta invite. I will share my objective experience (I'm skeptical with a lot of games ;)). And DUST514 doesn't have PVE or all suits.
I'm in this game since the closed fan fest beta, for me the progress feels probably slower then for others. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
4664
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:15:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:
I can confirm that Fiend is right about CCP mentioning something about a respec, what we do not know is if it will be partial/for vehicles only/for racial suits & vehicles/full respec.. still waiting for an official statement from CCP.
Edit: damn you, cellphone!
It make sense. If you skilled sniper rifle, and they add new one, you might geht your SP back. Right now there is no separation between the 4 possible. Only the "sniper rifle". Shotgun would fit in the same structure. But the AR and Suits are already separated. right?
That still doesn't confirm it officially until I see either a link to the video of a CCP dev saying it or I see a blue post saying it's coming. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Top Men.
607
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Posted - 2013.10.23 05:05:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:meri jin wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:
I can confirm that Fiend is right about CCP mentioning something about a respec, what we do not know is if it will be partial/for vehicles only/for racial suits & vehicles/full respec.. still waiting for an official statement from CCP.
Edit: damn you, cellphone!
It make sense. If you skilled sniper rifle, and they add new one, you might geht your SP back. Right now there is no separation between the 4 possible. Only the "sniper rifle". Shotgun would fit in the same structure. But the AR and Suits are already separated. right? That still doesn't confirm it officially until I see either a link to the video of a CCP dev saying it or I see a blue post saying it's coming.
I have never see a blue talk about respecs, full or part. |
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