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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:39:00 -
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So, I came up with this new idea. Since the big deal with the AR is range, and everyone agrees that 60m is about where it should end. I think we should post pictures of the longest we've been shot with an AR.
Rules:
1. It has to do considerable damage, no death from 75m but only cause 3HP Damage. You were already dead by something else, and stray bullet hit you. Heck, if a fly would have landed on you you would have died.
2. Explain the death. Could you even see the guy shooting you? Where you firing back with something that should of had more range? Did you die quickly? What fit were you running, etc... Add some detail to it.
For mine: I was wearing a Light Frame(smaller hitbox) and running away. I figured nobody was close enought to shoot me, but I was pegged down in about 1 second from 96m.
Booya |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:51:00 -
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worse part of ar range is that these are gallente rifles doing this. gallente racial variance gives them are damage, low range weapons.
in a nutshell, if a gallente ar can hit at 100m the caldari one will have less bit but will hit at like 200m. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1859
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:58:00 -
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Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1112
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:04:00 -
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Range isn't the issue.
The fact that it doesn't have any spread/recoil/kick/whatever when ADS is the issue.
What I don't understand is why there's spread on the gun when you're hipfiring, but it automatically becomes a sniper when you ADS |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1859
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:06:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Range isn't the issue.
The fact that it doesn't have any spread/recoil/kick/whatever when ADS is the issue.
What I don't understand is why there's spread on the gun when you're hipfiring, but it automatically becomes a sniper when you ADS
Well, thank you very much for proving my point ....... |
8213
Grade No.2
475
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:08:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it.
Its still able to do 100+ damage at almost 100m in 1 second. I don't care how much Skill went into it, or how many damage mods it has. AR's bullets shouldn't even still be flying after 100m.
That makes it a short, medium, and long range weapon... What other weapon gets to preform well in all 3 categories?
Oh wait, the SCR can, but has a list of balancing implements built into it, and the Charged Shot only goes 50m then disappears. Nobody minds the AR, its a versatile weapon, that people are comfortable with because of it being a FPS Mainstay, but being lethal still out to 100m, and possibly beyond is called one-sided. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1859
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:16:00 -
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8213 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it. Its still able to do 100+ damage at almost 100m in 1 second. I don't care how much Skill went into it, or how many damage mods it has. AR's bullets shouldn't even still be flying after 100m. That makes it a short, medium, and long range weapon... What other weapon gets to preform well in all 3 categories? Oh wait, the SCR can, but has a list of balancing implements built into it, and the Charged Shot only goes 50m then disappears. Nobody minds the AR, its a versatile weapon, that people are comfortable with because of it being a FPS Mainstay, but being lethal still out to 100m, and possibly beyond is called one-sided.
A bow have an effective killing range of around 50 meters.... and that is an ARROW. And you saying that an Assault Rifle shouldn't be effective at 100 meters ? |
DildoMcnutz
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
290
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:33:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it.
The SS skill does not affect range, did you even read the description or have you not looked since chrome? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1860
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:39:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:8213 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it. Its still able to do 100+ damage at almost 100m in 1 second. I don't care how much Skill went into it, or how many damage mods it has. AR's bullets shouldn't even still be flying after 100m. That makes it a short, medium, and long range weapon... What other weapon gets to preform well in all 3 categories? Oh wait, the SCR can, but has a list of balancing implements built into it, and the Charged Shot only goes 50m then disappears. Nobody minds the AR, its a versatile weapon, that people are comfortable with because of it being a FPS Mainstay, but being lethal still out to 100m, and possibly beyond is called one-sided. A bow have an effective killing range of around 50 meters.... and that is an ARROW. And you saying that an Assault Rifle shouldn't be effective at 100 meters ?
I actually feel like trolling you a bit more.....
Baseball longest throw= 135.666 m Cricket ball longest throw = 128.198 m Golf Ball longest throw = 155.448 m
A dude throw a huge ROCK ( 22 pounds ) with it's hands for 27.432 m |
8213
Grade No.2
475
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:50:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:8213 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it. Its still able to do 100+ damage at almost 100m in 1 second. I don't care how much Skill went into it, or how many damage mods it has. AR's bullets shouldn't even still be flying after 100m. That makes it a short, medium, and long range weapon... What other weapon gets to preform well in all 3 categories? Oh wait, the SCR can, but has a list of balancing implements built into it, and the Charged Shot only goes 50m then disappears. Nobody minds the AR, its a versatile weapon, that people are comfortable with because of it being a FPS Mainstay, but being lethal still out to 100m, and possibly beyond is called one-sided. A bow have an effective killing range of around 50 meters.... and that is an ARROW. And you saying that an Assault Rifle shouldn't be effective at 100 meters ? I actually feel like trolling you a bit more..... Baseball longest throw= 135.666 m Cricket ball longest throw = 128.198 m Golf Ball longest throw = 155.448 m A dude throw a huge ROCK ( 22 pounds ) with it's hands for 27.432 m
The Gallente Empire in an alternate Universe of instant transferable duplicating clone technology's AR= 100.046m
Oh wait, my example doesn't actual exist, so I probably shouldn't compare anything real life to it. Now, go look up how far the .308 Minigun shoots (HMG) |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1861
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:54:00 -
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8213 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:8213 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Do any of you, AR haters, takes into account Sharpshooter Skills before complaining about the range ? Because that specific skill allows more bullets to hit the target at longer ranges.
THIS is what is wrong with this community .... people only sees the weapon, but completely ignores the skills and modules attach to it. Its still able to do 100+ damage at almost 100m in 1 second. I don't care how much Skill went into it, or how many damage mods it has. AR's bullets shouldn't even still be flying after 100m. That makes it a short, medium, and long range weapon... What other weapon gets to preform well in all 3 categories? Oh wait, the SCR can, but has a list of balancing implements built into it, and the Charged Shot only goes 50m then disappears. Nobody minds the AR, its a versatile weapon, that people are comfortable with because of it being a FPS Mainstay, but being lethal still out to 100m, and possibly beyond is called one-sided. A bow have an effective killing range of around 50 meters.... and that is an ARROW. And you saying that an Assault Rifle shouldn't be effective at 100 meters ? I actually feel like trolling you a bit more..... Baseball longest throw= 135.666 m Cricket ball longest throw = 128.198 m Golf Ball longest throw = 155.448 m A dude throw a huge ROCK ( 22 pounds ) with it's hands for 27.432 m The Gallente Empire in an alternate Universe of instant transferable duplicating clone technology's AR= 100.046m Oh wait, my example doesn't actual exist, so I probably shouldn't compare anything real life to it. Now, go look up how far the .308 Minigun shoots (HMG)
You can provably throw a small rock to a 50 meters + distance ....my record is about 70 meters. We have rocks in the EvE universe... right ? A heavy Amarr can provably throw a rock for 150 meters +
100 meters is not as much as you think......... |
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