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Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:38:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Could they even legally do this? There is arguably no item of equivalent value to a BPO.
You accepted the EULA right? Well then yes. They can do it whether you like it or not. Although they do have to substitute it with item(s) of equal or greater value. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:41:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:One thing to clarify guys: The removal refers to removing any new sources of BPOs. At this stage there are no plans to remove any BPOs from anyone's inventories.
We are also looking at whether we want to put in place restrictions to things such as trading and exchange of BPOs. This has not been decided internally, but do be aware this is under discussion.
I'll have more details soon, just thought I should cut that concern off at the pass. What do you mean, 'at this stage', we all know CCP changes their mind on just about everything, at least 3 times a day, so what's to say we won't be seeing an official announcement come 01/01/2014 stating all BPOs will be removed to make way for the player market.
They can do that if they wanted to. If you don't trust them then don't buy products from them. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:42:00 -
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Vanu Commander wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:If there is a BPO removal, all merc packs should be refunded to cash.
You cannot sell something and then change it, then you get problems with something called the law. You cannot refund to cash, that's illegal according to sony. Highest level you can refund back to is PSN wallet. According to Sony? It's NOT illegal! That's their policy (and not to be confused with the law). EULA cannot event protect that either. It is simply a bait and switch tactic, which it is illegal (if not bait and switch, some form of it). You cannot promote something and people pay with hard earned cash then take it away without refund (psn wallet or aur are NOT refund, thus you guys still keep the money). This is bullshit!
Well apparently the ps3 is still sony's property even though you bought it. Well that is according to sonys EULA. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:48:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Could they even legally do this? There is arguably no item of equivalent value to a BPO. You accepted the EULA right? Well then yes. They can do it whether you like it or not. Although they do have to substitute it with item(s) of equal or greater value. Also equivalent value has to be how much the BPOs cost (Not as a whole as a single BPO) so they could just give you AUR as you're refund. As a consumer you have a legal right to request a refund, regardless of the alternatives they provide. If CCP decides that they won't honor the purchase agreement, and decide to change the terms, you can legally request a refund. CCP and Sony are do not have impunity from EU, US and UK consumer law, regardless of the EULA that theyes make you agree to. The final decision on the matter will ALWAYs rest in the hands of the courts. Btw I've just finished my 4 year studies, 3 of which was spent studying law, consumer rights, and business studies.
So you get PSN money back if you decide to petition to get a refund in which your characters get wiped losing all the progress you made anyways so I doubt many people will do it unless they're planning on leaving dust. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:51:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Vanu Commander wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:If there is a BPO removal, all merc packs should be refunded to cash.
You cannot sell something and then change it, then you get problems with something called the law. You cannot refund to cash, that's illegal according to sony. Highest level you can refund back to is PSN wallet. According to Sony? It's NOT illegal! That's their policy (and not to be confused with the law). EULA cannot event protect that either. It is simply a bait and switch tactic, which it is illegal (if not bait and switch, some form of it). You cannot promote something and people pay with hard earned cash then take it away without refund (psn wallet or aur are NOT refund, thus you guys still keep the money). This is bullshit! Well apparently the ps3 is still sony's property even though you bought it. Well that is according to sonys EULA. No court would support an action by Sony to request the return of a PS3 that a consumer has purchased.
You obviously don't know nothing about sony's cases against the people who first hacked their ps3s and released them publicly. I suggest looking at those cases since they were quite messed up. (Read into graf chokolo and geohots for the main cases but there are many others too) |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
2084
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:55:00 -
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Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Yelhsa Jin-Mao wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Could they even legally do this? There is arguably no item of equivalent value to a BPO. You accepted the EULA right? Well then yes. They can do it whether you like it or not. Although they do have to substitute it with item(s) of equal or greater value. Also equivalent value has to be how much the BPOs cost (Not as a whole as a single BPO) so they could just give you AUR as you're refund. As a consumer you have a legal right to request a refund, regardless of the alternatives they provide. If CCP decides that they won't honor the purchase agreement, and decide to change the terms, you can legally request a refund. CCP and Sony are do not have impunity from EU, US and UK consumer law, regardless of the EULA that theyes make you agree to. The final decision on the matter will ALWAYs rest in the hands of the courts. Btw I've just finished my 4 year studies, 3 of which was spent studying law, consumer rights, and business studies. So you get PSN money back if you decide to petition to get a refund in which your characters get wiped losing all the progress you made anyways so I doubt many people will do it unless they're planning on leaving dust. If it gets me -ú169.97 (over $200) refunded, I would happily erase DUST514 from my PS3, and spend the money on PS4 titles instead.
Then why not do it? People have done it before. |
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