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Bubbles moon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.19 19:51:00 -
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So please follow me here, I'm only going to be talking about maxing out a single set of skills to level 5 and how long that takes in both games.
For Dust it's taking into account normal boosters, not omega.
For Eve online I'm taking into account +5 implants
So 1st lets talk Eve online. Lets say you just start a new character. And you want to train up every single ship skill in the game. Ammar, minmatar, caldari, and gallente. Getting the following skills to level 5. Frigate, Destroyer, Cruiser, Battlecruiser, Battleship.
This skill plan takes 13 months. 398days and 20 hours. Over a year! You unlock and max out 72 Ships.
Now on to Dust 514. So you start off a new character in Dust 514. You buy your boosters and you set off. You really fall in love with the logi and you choose to level up all 4 of the logi dropsuits to level 5. You want to unlock all 4 racial prototype suits. Each logi skill takes 3 months to level up to 5. * grumble* Unlike Eve online you can't even use the protosuit until it's level 5.
This skill plan takes 12 months, 365 days. You unlock 4 dropsuits.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/04/19/ccp-shows-off-seven-years-of-dust-514-skill-training/ |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.10.19 20:36:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:So please follow me here, as I'm only going to be talking about two entirely different things but equate them as the same thing as a means to make a point.
So whenever I try to make lasagna that **** takes like TWO hours to prepare and cook properly, but whenever I'm just making spaghetti it takes like 30 minutes. Seriously, I'm using the same ingredients. Why the hell am I having to spend so much time on something that's essentially the same thing? This is completely unjustified.
As such, I propose we rebalance lasagna's cook time to the same as spaghetti. I mean, I don't care to spend the time to actually learn the intricacies involved in each dish. I would much rather look at it superficially and use my all-knowing wisdom to decide what's right.
Ok but we have to actually based it off of the example then, so I'll use your pasta example since it obviously has everything to do with skill training.
So whenever I try to make lasagna that **** takes like 5 days to prepare and cook properly, but whenever I'm just making spaghetti it takes like 30 minutes. Seriously, I'm using the same ingredients. Why the hell am I having to spend so much time on something that's essentially the same thing? This is completely unjustified.
Yeah, it is, good job genius you figured it out. |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.10.20 00:11:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:
And just because its unlocked doesn't mean its useful at all. You need to unlock all of that ships weapons and mods and related skills in order for it to be decent.
So is this not true for Dust 514? Once you train up the dropsuit your done? I'm pretty sure if you level up a dust dropsuit skill to 5 it doesn't make that suit any good.
Quote:but even then its still not good unless other things are unlocked to compliment it. 3 months for one dropsuit is probably a lot, but that probably directly correlates with the fact that theres like 12 dropsuits in the game, while theres hundreds of ships in EVE online.......
yeah duh, all I'm saying is maybe CCP should plan ahead. At the moment the system is not future proof.
FACT it takes 5 months to max and train every single frigate in the game tech 1 and 2.
FACT it takes 20 months to train just medium suits of every race and that's with no weapon skills, support skills, ect.
Of crouse it has to do with less suits in dust than eve but that means in the future this game will have 40+ if not 60+ years of skills to train. I'm not going to play that I'll play eve instead. that game has 1/8th the grind. And eve online has 10 times the grind of any other MMO. |
Bubbles moon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.25 19:47:00 -
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now we will have 4 racial AR weapons each with a 8 month long skill plan hmmm |
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