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lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 12:14:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:the list goes on, and on, and on, and yet you're telling me that my class is to be subjugated to one play style, because of what, that's how YOU think WE should play?
HA ignorant, or arrogant, I can't tell which.
I'd say both, especially as he stated that he never even tried a scout suit himself. |
lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:04:00 -
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8213 wrote:I just got out of a game against you, where your Scout walked right through my HMG and killed me from 3m away. You had 400 armor, and you were fast as hell(2x faster than your medium counter parts), and had plenty of killing power obviously...
Seems a whole heck of a lot more than any Medium Frame can do in this game...
Your argument is bullsh*t and void.
Now THAT's BS! There's NO WAY for a scout 2 go twice as fast as other medium frames. And in any case the scout would have to sacrifice all low slots and a lot of PG & CPU for complex kincats.
If you want to compare, look at base stats. Then you'll see that a scout's only slightly faster, despite sacrificing armor, shields, PG, CPU & slots.
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lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:05:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:'pauses thread'
Finally did it. likes=1234 lol
'resumes thread'
I'd like to like this, but that would be a shame ;) |
lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:23:00 -
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8213 wrote:Its just scout users think that their suit shouldn't have any cons. They want more CPU/PG, they want more HP, they want more slots... they totally forget what they are getting into in the first place. Scouts have their advantages that no other suits can duplicate, but that's not enough for Scout users.
Scouts don't want to be fast Assaults. They want balance. And the balance has been lost due to a series of nerfs and boosts that put the Scout at a disadvantage.
8213 wrote:Here's an idea. I want my Assaults buffed. I want more HP, more speed, more CPU/PG. Forget that I already have list of things I can do more superior than Logis, Scouts, Commandos, and Sentinels... I need more. Logis can do my job just as effective as me actually, so I want extra equipment slots too. Its not fair... because... well I don't have a reason, but I say its not fair. (...) If scouts are in such need of rework then why do people use them now? Why do people use this Frame that apparently has no positives to it?
Other scouts have given you plenty of valid reasons, but you haven't replied to those yet. It seems to me that you choose to ignore valid facts and arguments, because you don't want to get into a discussion you can't win.
8231 wrote:Your turn, maybe you can do what nobody else can. Now that's exactly what Scouts are crying about: they need some advantage that creates balance! Right now, an Assault or Logi can create a better fit than a Scout. Except for the hitbox.
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lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:27:00 -
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8213 wrote:But, you still were able to survive an 200 rounds of an HMG and neutralize it. Buy since you're the best DUST player on the planet, I should be happy I went 6/5 against you're full squad. Maybe next time I won't use a Starter Fit than a Heavy, maybe I'll have to use my own Scout Build...
So you're 1 player, in a starter heavy fit of all things, who lost from a extremely good proto scout. And that makes Scouts OK?
There's so much wrong with your reasoning, I'm not even going to explain!
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lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:34:00 -
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8213 wrote:BARDAS wrote:8213 wrote:Scouts have their advantages that no other suits can duplicate, but that's not enough for Scout users.  Are we even playing the same game? I would laugh but I'm pretty sure you are serious. Please pray tell us what these mystical roles that only a Scout can perform are? 1. Speed without Kin-Cats 2. Smaller hitboxes 3. Racial Scout Bonus 4. Scout Bonus 5. More Stealth(not much, but more) 6. Stamina without Cardiac Regulators 7. Jumps higher So, I suppose the roles it would do better are: 1.Sneaking behind enemy lines (Maybe that's what its called a Scout) to plant equipment or Hack. 2. Closing range between enemies faster, making Shotguns (and other weapons) more effective too, thus providing yourself with a decent assault role, with the added defense of a smaller hitbox. 3. AV, because a Scout can chase down a HAV better, and cross terrian better because of the jumping ability. Good enough for me...
1. Not an issue, because assaults have plenty more PG and CPU for a Kincat - and it'll make them faster, too
2. Agreed
3. Other classes have their respective bonuses. Also, the current bonuses are useless with nerfed scan range and hit detection
4. Same as 3
5. Agreed, but an Assault is easily stealthier than a Minnie scout. And Scouts need to sink SP like nothing else for not to be picked up by advanced scanners.
6. Same as 1.
7. That's true.
Overall, some small benefits that can mostly be surpassed by an Assault, who has much more eHP to boot. |
lrian Locust
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:37:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:lrian Locust wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:'pauses thread'
Finally did it. likes=1234 lol
'resumes thread' I'd like to like this, but that would be a shame ;) lol Liked you anyway, now you've gotten past the magic number! ;)
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