Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.19 23:13:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote: Nova knifing mediums
Guilty as charged.
AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:8213 wrote:This forum has a few themes right now: Nerf the AR, Patch want/needs, and Scout suit modifications.
I see that people who are using Scouts are not happy with what little they have to work with. They want more equipment slots, or more CPU, and more speed, etc...
I thought the purpose of light frames was to be stripped down suits that purposely can perform LESS simultaneous functions on the battlefield. They are like the opposites of Logi or Heavies I thought?
Scouts have speed and stealth, which means they run around the back of the enemy and plant Uplinks to ambush the enemy, sneak to an objective and begin hacking it, scan the holy sh*t out of everything, and maybe get a few kills then run for cover again. Or, they actually scout the enemy and use a mic to tell their team where they are at.
I know some people use them for shotguns, because you need every advantage you can get with those broken guns, and the fact that hitboxes sway terribly in this game makes Scouts very effective when they are dancing all around you. Bullets shoot right through them like they are ghosts; but they die instantly if they are 10 metes away from you... I can't tell you how many times I catch a Scout in the open, in the thick of the battlefield running head on right at me, and all I can think is "really dude, props for trying, but you're dead... NOW" I shoot, they die. sometimes I even have o back up 5 steps. This is an example of a scout playing foolishly to there equipment function.
So, Why are Scout users asking for more, when their frames are specifically made to do less? This doesn't mean they aren't effective, they just have different roles. Sure, Heavies would like to have equipment slots so they can stand on Triages, Logis would like sidearms AND more slots, mediums would like to have Scout speed without sacrificing health and stealth themselves. I personally would like more to my Caldari Medium frames(and yes I use the SCR w/ Caldari because I'm stubborn) but that's all in the name of balance.
I never used an actual Scout frame before; only Basic Light. I do fine with them of what can be expected. I hack more objectives, and I get more support WP. In fact, I'll leave with this example:
The only time I ever played General John Ripper and Levi Thunder our team was destined to get stomped. I was having a terrible day with connections, so I was only using free fits that day. One of them was The Gallente Hunter Fit, a stealth(ish) Light frame. As expected, my team was getting destroyed in a hurry, we went down by 15 clones in the first 2 minutes. So, I put on my light frame, and ran all the way around the map, and climbed up a wall and planted Uplinks right behind them. So ever death from there on, they got ambushed. I then ran all the way around them again and did it to them a 2nd, and 3rd time. I finished 2/4 but had 1200+ in Uplinks because I placed them in detrimental positions for the enemy. I called in my HAV (and actually left it there for my team to drive) and before you know it, we won the match. All thanks to ME! All thanks to using a Light Suit as intended. Look bud, every suit gives up something to get something. Heavies are tanked but slow. Scouts are slight but fast. Medium Suits are in the middle - at least in theory. Don't get it confused. Some of the best players on Dust are scouts - but it's not because of some advantge conferred on them by their suits. They're just REALLY good players. It makes no sense to me that a medium suit can have 5x my eHP but can run almost as fast as I can. scouts have no real advantage. you want to talk about scanning? Sure - we start out at the same 10m that everyone else does, but to get it higher we have to give up low slots, which you guessed it, we need for speed. I'm sick of people who don't play the role saying "scouts can have a scan radius of 99m" when it is so clear that the only way to get that is first to be proto gallente with scan skills maxxed out and second to give up ALL 4 low slots ---- no room for speed, which defeats the entire purpose of the suit. Basically, people need to shut up. The way the AR is right now, it's impossible to play as a scout. People keep saying "Stealth Stealth Stealth", - well num nuts, I would be stealthy but there is no mechanism for stealth in this game. Nobody relies on their passive scanning because it's only 10 m. The only way I can sneak up on someone is if I'm lucky and they don't turn around and AR **** And lastly, just because you had one decent game as a scout doesn't give you cause to come on here and do the whole "well I'm awesome even with a scout suit" humble brag. keep playing as a scout. Nothing you put up there couldn't have been done by another suit (looking at you medium suits). You were just lucky you weren't facing direct combat from formidable foes because they would - I repeat - WOULD have stomped you. Also, you called in a HAV - just because you were in a light suit does not mean you were scouting. +1? |