DUST Search - Fill me in on Scouts

8213 wrote:

OZAROW wrote:

8213 wrote:

OZAROW wrote:

So I read a bit of that mess an what I want to know is, if you think their hardly playable an hard mod but not u.p how does that even measure up?
If 2.5% of the entire player base are scouts how many are scouts that are entirely new since uprising?
How many new people tried it an said fukthis I'm not staying this class any longer or putting more points in it an how many are scouts because their locked in a sp sink an how many would quit being scouts if given a respec tomorrow, an how many older scouts own other suits an run them more than scouts, or are scout tankers?

See your going off shotty's chart, an that's your first mistake.
The registry asks for honesty.
For only 50% of your time to be a scout.
I played scout since jan only, it's taken from then to now to get over 1 on my kd an over 10 000 kills.
Does that mean I suck?
No it means I use a scout ONLY, an not a assault rifle or sniper or tank.
You think djinn got 50000 sg kills?
Give your head a shake

Older scouts that like rifles an been here since closed beta an are extremely good players in any game are our top.
I gaurunte if I used a rifle the whole time I'd have double what I have.
So because I like sg an nk I have to put up with a broken game?
If your a assault scout it's not the same as a nk or sg assassin .

Why
Because look at the CPU pg difference in those weapons also compare armor to biotics.
The scout should accomodate it's many play styles not AR514
My knives use as much as a proto gun, wtf?
Asking for more difference between frame with speed an scanning an CPU pg an a equip slot isn't much to ask when we need survalence equipment .
But wasting my time with you is like expecting every human being able to understand logic

hmmm missed, buuuut the idea of Scouts have their own gear sound fair to you? Then maybe Heavies can get there own gear to?
For example: Kin-Cats that can only be used by Scouts and can't be put on Medium and Light Frames. Kind of like the Armor mods that are made for scouts.

Missed?
That's all you've been writing, your coming off a little too arrogant , biased an unable to be reasoned with

Yes sir, its called giving up.


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OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 889	Posted - 2013.10.19 20:51:00 - [1] - Quote more proof that other frames are actually scared of us! they feel wee do good as is, thats because we know whats broken about our frames, we do our best to compensate and its irritating, one day knives work, next day they dont, same with shotguns an most of everything we use, i am personally cqc, not a Ar user. i have wasted so many points skilling different stuff to survive. up rising hit i used knives and sg, that broke , so i went faylock and smg, that got nerfed, so i have a smg as my only 100% reliable weapon out of 4 at proficiency levels. then scanners came and the armor buff. a mini scout has 2 lows and loses all its speed in order to damp under 30 and cant under 15, gallente can but now were slower than any logi or med frame with a speed mod that can chase us down and still have 3 x the sp, shields suck now so i skilled into gallente, ontop of that a minmatar suit has no advantage to scan only gallente. we hack a spot alone, warning comes on screen, dead mercs spawn in our location and gangbangg one lonely scout. ontop of that my proto fit can hardly fit good gear or fill all slots and i have 23 million sp, im not a scrub and i have my suit skills up. not to mention that as a shield scout switching to a armored scout i also have almost all skills at 5 and my dragonfly does the same as my proto only my proto has better dps due to weapons, but they both have the same hp, figure that one out! so ya i think we have good enough reason to be more than choked about the situation.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 889	Posted - 2013.10.19 21:06:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: knight of 6 wrote: 8213 wrote: knight of 6 wrote: depending on the scout you talk to you'll hear different things. for me it's that every task we can perform another suit can do better and with more hitpoints, also we can't really fit equipment on our suit without losing valuable tank. does that help? I understand Read the example at the end of my post. I used equipment, and had nothing to tank onto my HP. I was paper mache'. That's why I had to take the very long way around the enemy so I wasn't spotted, because I had zero chance in a fire fight. My role wasn't to get kills. That's why we have Assaults and Scouts. One is made to kill, the other is made to... scout I read it, why have a scout if literally everything is better than it? congrats you could have used a logi and done the same thing but with better ehp? a few damps and an uplink and maybe a kinkat and you have a scout suit with twice the ehp that's still fast and stealthy. why have a scout? why? you can fill the same role with another suit that has better hitpoints and damage so why have a scout for it? also I'm gonna assume the underlined bit is a typo? might wanna fix it before you void your argument completely. Then I really have to ask, why are you using Scouts at all then? Why are you purposely gimping yourself? I was pointing out the name of the two different suits, that have 2 different roles. Assaults are made to kill, and not a whole lot more, they are made to be on the front lines. Scouts aren't made to do that. They are made to be behind the enemy lines, doing scout things. Sneaky things. Ambush tactics. Assaults assault. Scouts scout. they were good, its not like we said hey lets pick the worst suit and ask ccp to make it better! did you play in chrome when scouts had it just as good as everyone else? uprising came, we lost slots, cpu pg, then the strafe changes, hit detection problems on our most used weapons, changes to scanners being in the game, no a mini scout cant do what a gallente can for stealth but a logi can, AR damage and insane range, tyhey changed the game from what it was when we dumped points in our suits, we need to be equaled out to match the changes done to benefit everyone else, the game was not like this when we became scouts, and it should not remain this way, period! the only reason this has lasted so long is so CCP can accommodate the larger player AR514 base. if our weapons were as reliable as a scr or AR everyone would say its op and if they ever fix it permanently , i promise you. and this fear is the reason behind this entire thread!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 911	Posted - 2013.10.20 13:47:00 - [3] - Quote =ƒæè=ƒÆñ=ƒÆñ=ƒÆñyou got knockdafukOuttt!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 911	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:56:00 - [4] - Quote Ok for one it all depends on the map and your squad an squad leader an how many sp points you have. I have almost 23 mill sp, wait until I have 30. By then I will have nano hives at proto, links, all my shield an armor an a I already have a logi at 1 racial , a proto min scout an a adv gallente scout. I invested in my logi so I didn't need to spawn in 6 different suits to put out uplinks, now I can use it as a suitcase an get my team a ton of links to maintain that area an use my scout an r9 to give them outside areas. But personally scouts are city assassins , I can hide in many more places an use corners stairs an ledges to get away, I can plant remotes at choke points an keep refilling at depots an my team hives an if we're losing that area I can go get a outside letter. But as far as recon goes that job is dead, it's done by anyone with a scanner. I personally could do the exact same job probably better with a proto logi by spamming all the links / hives I want in the city, switch to a shield tanked shotgun fit with bombs an a hive, speed an cardiac regs an kill anyone that comes close to my node. To me this is how a scout should play , silently picking your team off one by one otherwise why does a minmatar scout have a knife an melee bonus? So you can't tell me killing isn't my job when it's in my suits description! If I get my hives to proto I can put proto rep hives right where I'm guarding an stand there with a proto gallente with 160 shields an 700 armor! My min scout can have 600 HP if I dual tank, so no I don't need HP I have sp. My sp allows me to play how I want just like a logie with 900hp two damage mods an super god mode hives, is he playing as intended? It depends on the map the squad an the situation an this game was made for you the player to discover the best way for you to play, it was built around diversity an imagination, for you do do what you want , to be a specialized soldier. The problem scouts have is the continuos game changes from chrome to now that have left them the least catered to class an last to balance to keep up with the rest of the balancing that has already happened. In order to have any scan benifits I need a gallente scout, my min scout an your assault have no difference in our range or percision unless I skilled mine to proto an you didn't, mine should be higher even if I didn't and you did, so we're equal unless I skill my range so I always can have a edge not be equal because I am a scout. If you have speed mods an I do too, you should not be able to catch me, especially since your ranged ar can b!tch slap me from over 50 m away an still kill me, so if my range scan was better you wouldn't see me an my lack of speed wouldn't matter I could dampen. Ccp has made too many catch 22 situation for scouts an all were asking for is for them to be cleaned up. But writing explanations over an over again only for ignorant people that tried a bpo fit to dissagree is pointless cuz unless you do this everyday , get killed in the dumbest ways an have watched your class decrease for months with no resolve , all the explanations any of us come up with won't satisfie you because you'll just never get it because you don't want too! The good scouts that ran into the red line an took that thale from you, the ones that snuck behind you an stole your balac
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 911	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:57:00 - [5] - Quote Rifle, are the reason your all scared if we get any love, an tbh you should be cuz when we're fixed we're gonna be a nasty bunch
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 914	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:20:00 - [6] - Quote 8213 wrote: OZAROW wrote: Rifle, are the reason your all scared if we get any love, an tbh you should be cuz when we're fixed we're gonna be a nasty bunch Of course you are. Because while everyone has to play tactically, you'll get to treat the game like Call of Duty, which is basically what all Scouts really want... Battlefield and Call of Duty are that way <----- I ve never played those games, but I did awesome in crysis , killzone, an splinter cell. I like being sneaky, an I like shot guns an knives, I like hard mode, but telling me I want cod when I have never even played the game makes me laugh but it doesn't negate the fact that our CPU. An pg is crap or that we have lost slots with new builds that we need back. Like did I really skill over a 1.5 million points for 1 more slot an a extra complex shield? Common dude even you can admit that's $hit! We went proto only for the passive racial bonuses an maybe a tad more CPU /pg to fit a higher dps weapon. So if you can't see the logic in any of these rebutles than dude your just a straight up ignorant troll a$$hole tbh
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 914	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:17:00 - [7] - Quote Hey (insert profanity here) Did it ever occur to you that the so called god mod scouts have been playing since closed beta an that's why they have so many kills , good kd an wp cuz their on great clans, used tanks, rifles, snipers, an got a lot of kills when scouts were viable an play this game like addicts? God your a knob, arguing just to argue, this if your not aware has shown all of us how big of a clown you are outside of this game. If I ever met you in real life an got into a debate with you, you'd probably get your buckies knocked out due to how frustratingly ignorant you are
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 915	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:28:00 - [8] - Quote For me I made it high profit cuz I was sick of using proto an dying the same. So I went with Dragon scout Mtl sg bpo Toxin bpo Complex cardiac Mtl armor rep bpo M1 R/E Think it's only 4000 isk an packs a punch with pro 4 on both weapons Basically I figured fuk it till they fix this game and I'm buying up everything in the market! I'm buying 100 proto suits a day, guns an equipment, just incAse they steal our bpos from us. I get between 10-20 kills a match an lose like 12000 isk so for me it's ok
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 915	Posted - 2013.10.21 12:13:00 - [9] - Quote Yep daily occurrence for me, baggin 22 Protos in a pub stomp. Killed with r/e dragonfly suit, 120 shields 08 armor remaining ........ Dis! Lol
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 929	Posted - 2013.10.22 21:53:00 - [10] - Quote So I read a bit of that mess an what I want to know is, if you think their hardly playable an hard mod but not u.p how does that even measure up? If 2.5% of the entire player base are scouts how many are scouts that are entirely new since uprising? How many new people tried it an said fukthis I'm not staying this class any longer or putting more points in it an how many are scouts because their locked in a sp sink an how many would quit being scouts if given a respec tomorrow, an how many older scouts own other suits an run them more than scouts, or are scout tankers? See your going off shotty's chart, an that's your first mistake. The registry asks for honesty. For only 50% of your time to be a scout. I played scout since jan only, it's taken from then to now to get over 1 on my kd an over 10 000 kills. Does that mean I suck? No it means I use a scout ONLY, an not a assault rifle or sniper or tank. You think djinn got 50000 sg kills? Give your head a shake Older scouts that like rifles an been here since closed beta an are extremely good players in any game are our top. I gaurunte if I used a rifle the whole time I'd have double what I have. So because I like sg an nk I have to put up with a broken game? If your a assault scout it's not the same as a nk or sg assassin . Why Because look at the CPU pg difference in those weapons also compare armor to biotics. The scout should accomodate it's many play styles not AR514 My knives use as much as a proto gun, wtf? Asking for more difference between frame with speed an scanning an CPU pg an a equip slot isn't much to ask when we need survalence equipment . But wasting my time with you is like expecting every human being able to understand logic

OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 929	Posted - 2013.10.22 22:47:00 - [11] - Quote This is probably the smartest thing you ve said in this entire thread, providing the CPU pg costs are lowered an fitting optimization is in the skill tree for knifes, an our scan precision an range are buffed then a second equip slot won't be as nessecary but we still need one
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 929	Posted - 2013.10.22 23:21:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: OZAROW wrote: So I read a bit of that mess an what I want to know is, if you think their hardly playable an hard mod but not u.p how does that even measure up? If 2.5% of the entire player base are scouts how many are scouts that are entirely new since uprising? How many new people tried it an said fukthis I'm not staying this class any longer or putting more points in it an how many are scouts because their locked in a sp sink an how many would quit being scouts if given a respec tomorrow, an how many older scouts own other suits an run them more than scouts, or are scout tankers? See your going off shotty's chart, an that's your first mistake. The registry asks for honesty. For only 50% of your time to be a scout. I played scout since jan only, it's taken from then to now to get over 1 on my kd an over 10 000 kills. Does that mean I suck? No it means I use a scout ONLY, an not a assault rifle or sniper or tank. You think djinn got 50000 sg kills? Give your head a shake Older scouts that like rifles an been here since closed beta an are extremely good players in any game are our top. I gaurunte if I used a rifle the whole time I'd have double what I have. So because I like sg an nk I have to put up with a broken game? If your a assault scout it's not the same as a nk or sg assassin . Why Because look at the CPU pg difference in those weapons also compare armor to biotics. The scout should accomodate it's many play styles not AR514 My knives use as much as a proto gun, wtf? Asking for more difference between frame with speed an scanning an CPU pg an a equip slot isn't much to ask when we need survalence equipment . But wasting my time with you is like expecting every human being able to understand logic hmmm missed, buuuut the idea of Scouts have their own gear sound fair to you? Then maybe Heavies can get there own gear to? For example: Kin-Cats that can only be used by Scouts and can't be put on Medium and Light Frames. Kind of like the Armor mods that are made for scouts. Missed? That's all you've been writing, your coming off a little too arrogant , biased an unable to be reasoned with
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 929	Posted - 2013.10.23 00:53:00 - [13] - Quote Forget 5 games, play it for a week with something other than a rifle
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 929	Posted - 2013.10.23 02:05:00 - [14] - Quote 8213 wrote: OZAROW wrote: 8213 wrote: OZAROW wrote: So I read a bit of that mess an what I want to know is, if you think their hardly playable an hard mod but not u.p how does that even measure up? If 2.5% of the entire player base are scouts how many are scouts that are entirely new since uprising? How many new people tried it an said fukthis I'm not staying this class any longer or putting more points in it an how many are scouts because their locked in a sp sink an how many would quit being scouts if given a respec tomorrow, an how many older scouts own other suits an run them more than scouts, or are scout tankers? See your going off shotty's chart, an that's your first mistake. The registry asks for honesty. For only 50% of your time to be a scout. I played scout since jan only, it's taken from then to now to get over 1 on my kd an over 10 000 kills. Does that mean I suck? No it means I use a scout ONLY, an not a assault rifle or sniper or tank. You think djinn got 50000 sg kills? Give your head a shake Older scouts that like rifles an been here since closed beta an are extremely good players in any game are our top. I gaurunte if I used a rifle the whole time I'd have double what I have. So because I like sg an nk I have to put up with a broken game? If your a assault scout it's not the same as a nk or sg assassin . Why Because look at the CPU pg difference in those weapons also compare armor to biotics. The scout should accomodate it's many play styles not AR514 My knives use as much as a proto gun, wtf? Asking for more difference between frame with speed an scanning an CPU pg an a equip slot isn't much to ask when we need survalence equipment . But wasting my time with you is like expecting every human being able to understand logic hmmm missed, buuuut the idea of Scouts have their own gear sound fair to you? Then maybe Heavies can get there own gear to? For example: Kin-Cats that can only be used by Scouts and can't be put on Medium and Light Frames. Kind of like the Armor mods that are made for scouts. Missed? That's all you've been writing, your coming off a little too arrogant , biased an unable to be reasoned with Yes sir, its called giving up. So your trolling then on purpose, by ignoring everything presented to you an wasted our time? See at first I thought you just didn't know, now I see that your doing your best to be a complete RICHARD! Bravo good sir, ******* idiot
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 931	Posted - 2013.10.23 20:35:00 - [15] - Quote You have no solidarity to your statements or proof. Any thing I wrote until my last post you ignored because you had nothing, your only response to me was, MISSED You gave no reason why an backed nothing up, you've failed to bring any coherent solutions to the problem because in your opinion their is no problem scouts aren't under powered just hard mod. Your only point of this whole post was to stir $hit up because you gave up on the game. You act completely irrational when people provide you with decent information, causing a stalemate . This would irritate anyone trying to be reasonable with you. So if you feel unfairly treated this is something you brought on yourself due to a unrealistic opinion that you can't even validate because your not a scout. Just because I used a militia forge heavy to fight a tank give s me no legs to stand on with a option of using a proto heavy an the problems they face. If you were a highly sp invested scout you would be treated differently and your opinion would have substantial truth behnd your beliefs, but your not a full time scout. And we see your intended sabotage, only the rest of the AR community didn't back you up as expected , did they!