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jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 72	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:28:00 - [1] - Quote 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300
Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 155	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:37:00 - [2] - Quote I called my tank out to take out another tank in ambush but swarms got to it first so as the game to an end I was traveling in the general direction f the road to C on manus peak when a Swarm hit me. I activated my mods and got hit twice more, I rounded a corner to go up the road far from the swarmer and he hit me three more times. A. How was he able to hit me so quickly when I moved so far away B. Why should he be able to fire that quickly had this been pre buff that extra few seconds would have bought me enough time to get over the hill. C. Why should one person be able to deal 15,000 damage in under 15 seconds
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 620	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:38:00 - [3] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 Nope, they are going to do EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of what we wish and are removing the assault dropship from the game entirely. Problem solved I guess?
jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 72	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:41:00 - [4] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 Nope, they are going to do EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of what we wish and are removing the assault dropship from the game entirely. Problem solved I guess? hotfix at DT isn't hard, at all, bte that 0.7 second swarms part was #4 but LOLWTFAR's took down my shields, 2500
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 244	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:44:00 - [5] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 I know this might sound a tad mean but have you ever considered the possibility that you just suck at piloting assault dropships?
jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 72	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:51:00 - [6] - Quote medomai grey wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 I know this might sound a tad mean but have you ever considered the possibility that you just suck at piloting assault dropships? no, because i can pilot both tanks and dropships, the problem is sometimes not being able to react....
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 621	Posted - 2013.10.19 12:56:00 - [7] - Quote For better survivability you do need to fly in a drunken monkey style with little predictable patterns. Also, run passive resist mods. Swing over any possible hot zone rather than fly around it. Harder to be hit when you are going back and forth directly over the attacker. When passing over a hot zone pull up and back the way you were coming then turn to shoot or drop peeps rather than pass over and continue present trajectory.
jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 72	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:02:00 - [8] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: For better survivability you do need to fly in a drunken monkey style with little predictable patterns. Also, run passive resist mods. Swing over any possible hot zone rather than fly around it. Harder to be hit when you are going back and forth directly over the attacker. When passing over a hot zone pull up and back the way you were coming then turn to shoot or drop peeps rather than pass over and continue present trajectory. i use a passive resist, i usually stay stil and hover but they like me moving and not staying still for some reason, AFG's 3 shot me, it's so unfair ps. moving does nothing for fg's pss now im broke
Joel II X AHPA 45	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:05:00 - [9] - Quote For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. If you make something stronger, it's counter will also be stronger. I went through matches where no one pulled or anything AV to a logi ship.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 244	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:06:00 - [10] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: no, because i can pilot both tanks and dropships, the problem is sometimes not being able to react.... Being able to pilot tanks and dropships doesn't mean you're good at it. The ability to properly react however is one of the traits that makes you a good pilot. Although I do acknowledge that surviving AV can be difficult.

Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1692	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:11:00 - [11] - Quote t's always a blast destroying vehicles while they are getting deployed... either that or taking out the pilot that is sticking close so nobody else steals their vehicle on arrival.
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 495	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:15:00 - [12] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I called my tank out to take out another tank in ambush but swarms got to it first so as the game to an end I was traveling in the general direction f the road to C on manus peak when a Swarm hit me. I activated my mods and got hit twice more, I rounded a corner to go up the road far from the swarmer and he hit me three more times. A. How was he able to hit me so quickly when I moved so far away B. Why should he be able to fire that quickly had this been pre buff that extra few seconds would have bought me enough time to get over the hill. C. Why should one person be able to deal 15,000 damage in under 15 seconds the shots were fired at max range and timed most likely ..this wasnt this morning was it? i killed on this morn on that same map same way :) a knowledgeable can strafe the edge of its weapons max range and fire shots..i can direct the shots and time them to avoid them hitting barriers...but also you turned you were traveling parallel to the swarm launcher most likely and she or he just timed they're shots tanks are slow and the leading shots in a swarm volley will be at par with the second and third in the right situation fired properly they can hit you all at once or in very short intervals. they're are certain maps where the open terrain is more of a death trap with a skilled scout swarmer than the tight interior. i kill my enemy tanks currently with a cbr7 ona dragonfly bpo scout all mlt gear ..i have prof v SWARMS this is more than sufficient for anything other than a fully specced and skilled vet tanker
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 495	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:17:00 - [13] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: t's always a blast destroying vehicles while they are getting deployed... either that or taking out the pilot that is sticking close so nobody else steals their vehicle on arrival. lol right i killed this poor blue dot was calling creadon havs this morning cant resist an aur tank blew it up as he called it and then i caught em again running hit hit around the building and when he came out the other side he ran right into my 2nd volley pop goes the dynamite rolfmao
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 247	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:18:00 - [14] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 Assault dropships are being removed soon so don't expect any buffs.
Mortedeamor Internal Rebellion 495	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:20:00 - [15] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 Assault dropships are being removed soon so don't expect any buffs. poof gone
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1017	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:23:00 - [16] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 1. Don't fly over null cannons it launches antispaceship missiles, so a light aircraft won't survive a hit from them, its usually a bad idea to fly between the 2 MCCs as well because their missiles can hit pretty hard to though not as hard as a null cannon. 2. Yep assault forge guns hit really hard and fire way too quick, all you can do is fly in a way that makes you hard to hit with successive shots. 3, 4 and 5 if your getting taken out by swarms in an ADS you are doing it really really wrong, do you even fit an afterburner? out of all the dropships the ADS are in least need of a buff regarding survivability, its the AV weapons that need to be played with, forge guns in particular.
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 120	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:27:00 - [17] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 1. That's your own fault. 2. That's also your own fault. You fighting an opponent that has range, power, and if pitching in a wall. Yes the FG is OP and needs nerfed, but in the meantime, learn to pick your battles. 3. Ok, hit by swarms, gtfo. And what were you doing where you let ARs drop your shields? 4-5. You must have a terrible fit to be insta killed by swarms. My python can easily take 2-3 proto swarms with hardener activated. From the sounds of things, you're not the most competent pilot.
skippy678 F.T.U. 101	Posted - 2013.10.19 13:39:00 - [18] - Quote I do A/v and i fly a dropship...gotta say that people keep saying swarms were buffed....I strongly feel that they were not....I used to have 5 shots in a clip before reload and now i have three..personally I would rather have it back with more in the clip....i would destroy more Tanks/dropships...my vehicle still blows up lots just like it did before... No matter what guys, I run into tanks and dropships that are not afraid of me and kill me and never get killed by me..even with wykormi swarms with damage mods...so quick fix ....figure out what they are doin and do it instead of complaining about not being a good player publicly. A guy in my corp will run all day with me and never(aybe 1 time a day) losses a vehicle...Do you think its fair to othe players to make this guy even better???just because you trying to rock vehicles without a good amout of sp. just my thoughts
Roner General Ancient Exiles 91	Posted - 2013.10.19 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote just buy more?
jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 73	Posted - 2013.10.22 08:44:00 - [20] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 1. Don't fly over null cannons it launches antispaceship missiles, so a light aircraft won't survive a hit from them, its usually a bad idea to fly between the 2 MCCs as well because their missiles can hit pretty hard to though not as hard as a null cannon. no burner on python invisible swarms

jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 73	Posted - 2013.10.22 08:45:00 - [21] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 1. That's your own fault. 2. That's also your own fault. You fighting an opponent that has range, power, and if pitching in a wall. Yes the FG is OP and needs nerfed, but in the meantime, learn to pick your battles. 3. Ok, hit by swarms, gtfo. And what were you doing where you let ARs drop your shields? 4-5. lag or glitch maybe
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 11	Posted - 2013.10.22 08:59:00 - [22] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: 1. stupid null canon 2. little kid LOLassault forge gun i was 1 hit away from killing him multiple times in a glitch wall, i got hit, put repper, flee, OP FG kills me 3. LOL swarms in 0.7 seconds, get hit by ar's, get low shields(AR514 FTW) THEN swarms use reppers flee fast get insta killed, 4. insta kill swarms 5. insta kill swarms CCP, please remove/nerf proto av from the market/tweak proto AFG dmg to 1000 dmg as it's supposed to be high rof low dmg weapon remove proto breach FG or give assault dropships base 10-15% resistance and give python base 1200 hp or 1300 My least favourite way of losing dropships is simply touching the underside of the mcc. Engaging forge gunners is really done at your own risk as a single landed shot can toss a dropship all over and two or three shots can kill. Hovering over infantry without a solid exit plan is also done at your own risk, I've only ever died to a lone swarmer in an ads once, and that was a proto swarm with complex damage mods, if you can't hit them bug out. Tl;dr play smarter and know when to put your expensive toy away
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1619	Posted - 2013.10.22 09:02:00 - [23] - Quote LOL! working as intended. Try buffing the user for better results...
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 439	Posted - 2013.10.22 09:14:00 - [24] - Quote LOL DUDE LOST A PYTHON TO SWARMS!!!! Stop flying DS dude, you have no idea what you are doing, Python is immortal to swarms unless your are utter stupid.
jerrmy12 kahoalii REAPERS REPUBLIC 73	Posted - 2013.10.22 09:32:00 - [25] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: LOL DUDE LOST A PYTHON TO SWARMS!!!! Stop flying DS dude, you have no idea what you are doing, Python is immortal to swarms unless your are utter stupid. ok, get hit by 12 swarms at once with 2485 shields and 19% DR
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 727	Posted - 2013.10.22 09:36:00 - [26] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Obodiah Garro wrote: LOL DUDE LOST A PYTHON TO SWARMS!!!! Stop flying DS dude, you have no idea what you are doing, Python is immortal to swarms unless your are utter stupid. ok, get hit by 12 swarms at once with 2485 shields and 19% DR let me guess you camp a single spot not moving and you have no AB ? protip: l2p
Musta Tornius Algintal Core Gallente Federation 640	Posted - 2013.10.22 10:57:00 - [27] - Quote Don't worry, 1.7 will fix your problems...by removing your drop ship :)


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