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itsmellslikefish wrote:

Shruikan Iceeye wrote:

CCP you really fucced up with heavies.

*the inability to doge shots is Not made up for by the increased HP
* The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight.
*a medium suit can hold down choke points better! they can hit a target further away. down a hallway for example
*EVERYONE aims at the heavy first. (which really isnt your fault)...(actually it is because you made them walking bullet tampons when you took their balls away)

I skilled into heavies when they could hang. Now they are nearly worthless.
Please give us a respec

Boo hoo hoo, I'm unhappy that my heavysuit takes initial hits and acts like a tank Wahh, wahh where's my mommy. If you look at any rpg game, you usually have a tank, a high dps and support in a party, the tank is meant to alleviate pressure from your support and other members in the party.

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Shruikan Iceeye Brotherhood of Seals 77	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:54:00 - [1] - Quote CCP you really fucced up with heavies. the inability to doge shots is Not made up for by the increased HP The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight. a medium suit can hold down choke points better! they can hit a target further away. down a hallway for example EVERYONE aims at the heavy first. (which really isnt your fault)...(actually it is because you made them walking bullet tampons when you took their balls away) I skilled into heavies when they could hang. Now they are nearly worthless. Please give us a respec
NICK PETRONE SUICIDAL ARMY 2	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:01:00 - [2] - Quote I can do 10x more with my advanced basic Amarr suit that has 617hp than with my heavy that has 1157hp.... Agreed.
itsmellslikefish DIOS EX. Top Men. 371	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:20:00 - [3] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: CCP you really fucced up with heavies. the inability to doge shots is Not made up for by the increased HP The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight. a medium suit can hold down choke points better! they can hit a target further away. down a hallway for example EVERYONE aims at the heavy first. (which really isnt your fault)...(actually it is because you made them walking bullet tampons when you took their balls away) I skilled into heavies when they could hang. Now they are nearly worthless. Please give us a respec Boo hoo hoo, I'm unhappy that my heavysuit takes initial hits and acts like a tank Wahh, wahh where's my mommy. If you look at any rpg game, you usually have a tank, a high dps and support in a party, the tank is ment to alleviate pressure from your support and other members in the party.
Shruikan Iceeye Brotherhood of Seals 78	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:32:00 - [4] - Quote itsmellslikefish wrote: Boo hoo hoo, I'm unhappy that my heavysuit takes initial hits and acts like a tank Wahh, wahh where's my mommy. If you look at any rpg game, you usually have a tank, a high dps and support in a party, the tank is ment to alleviate pressure from your support and other members in the party. This isnt a roleplaying game friend. this is a fps Also im unsure if youre using sarcasm to support my original points or if im just reading to much into a stupid comment....
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 804	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:43:00 - [5] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: * The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight. You're wrong about the HMG. And the problem is the range you think you're supposed to be using it at. Use it for what it is, and not what you think it should be, and it's a monster. We fatties aren't getting Chromosome back, so we may as well adjust.
Shruikan Iceeye Brotherhood of Seals 79	Posted - 2013.10.18 20:01:00 - [6] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: You're wrong about the HMG. And the problem is the range you think you're supposed to be using it at. Use it for what it is, and not what you think it should be, and it's a monster. We fatties aren't getting Chromosome back, so we may as well adjust. I'm not talking about even 15m. I'm talking at 10m. against some one who understands that standing still gets you killed Ive never been delusional about the hmg's range. i know what it can do
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 0	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:21:00 - [7] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: You're wrong about the HMG. And the problem is the range you think you're supposed to be using it at. Use it for what it is, and not what you think it should be, and it's a monster. We fatties aren't getting Chromosome back, so we may as well adjust. I'm not talking about even 15m. I'm talking at 10m. against some one who understands that standing still gets you killed Ive never been delusional about the hmg's range. i know what it can do I already ask CCP if they have some military practice, how it seem no they DEFO dont XD HMG mutation M134D in reall worl have maximum range cca 900m its really funny how HGs are limited in CCPs future to 10-20metres XD HMG is beast, did they ever shoot from RPK for example, no i dont think so. In their worl only ARs are best from the best, what is really wierd an d i dont want take up that thingie with rockets, where tank is simple faster. HMG is powerfull beast with awesome rate, but unstable with titan recoil. Thats all, not some CCP b*shate idea like in BUST 514.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1499	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:23:00 - [8] - Quote Just a message of encouragement to heavies. Always know my repair tool loves you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3999	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:26:00 - [9] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Disturbingly Bored wrote: You're wrong about the HMG. And the problem is the range you think you're supposed to be using it at. Use it for what it is, and not what you think it should be, and it's a monster. We fatties aren't getting Chromosome back, so we may as well adjust. I'm not talking about even 15m. I'm talking at 10m. against some one who understands that standing still gets you killed Ive never been delusional about the hmg's range. i know what it can do I already ask CCP if they have some military practise, how it seem no they DEFO dont XD HMG mutation M134D in reall worl have maximum range cca 900m its really funny how HGs are limited in CCPs future to 10-20metres XD There are a whole host of reasons why using RL as an example for balancing is a terrible idea.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1020	Posted - 2013.10.18 21:42:00 - [10] - Quote Drop the plates. Add Kinetic Catalyzers, Cardiac Regulators, and Complex Reppers. Also, try the Assault HMG for more efficacy over mid to long ranges. Always use ADS. The crouching technique is just garbage. We definitely need a Dispertion effective Sharpshooter Skill though.

Shruikan Iceeye Brotherhood of Seals 80	Posted - 2013.10.19 01:43:00 - [11] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Drop the plates. Add Kinetic Catalyzers, Cardiac Regulators, and Complex Reppers. Also, try the Assault HMG for more efficacy over mid to long ranges. Always use ADS. The crouching technique is just garbage. We definitely need a Dispertion effective Sharpshooter Skill though. DuDee have you ever played as a heavy? All of these things will get you killed. Cats and Regs cannot make up for the heavies slow base speed (trust me i put four enhanced Cats on my Sentinel ak.0. It was slow as shiit. i dont think complex ones would make a giant difference) In any case you cant modify movement speed which is the real problem Sharpshooter is wat made Heavies OP in chrome so thats a bad idea. They just need to modify its base dispersion
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1858	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:11:00 - [12] - Quote What I don't understand is what is the point of scout suits and heavies getting less slots than the other suits anyways? Would it really hurt the game to let scouts and heavies +2 slots on every class and suit? They allready have other drawbacks! One is fast with less HP One is low with more HP BAM DONE SIMPLE why take away slots!? Also I miss my 2 equipment slot scout suit when the hell is that coming back :( If Heavy suits could fit more armor plates they could do better on the battle field!
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1858	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:13:00 - [13] - Quote itsmellslikefish wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: CCP you really fucced up with heavies. the inability to doge shots is Not made up for by the increased HP The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight. a medium suit can hold down choke points better! they can hit a target further away. down a hallway for example EVERYONE aims at the heavy first. (which really isnt your fault)...(actually it is because you made them walking bullet tampons when you took their balls away) I skilled into heavies when they could hang. Now they are nearly worthless. Please give us a respec Boo hoo hoo, I'm unhappy that my heavysuit takes initial hits and acts like a tank Wahh, wahh where's my mommy. If you look at any rpg game, you usually have a tank, a high dps and support in a party, the tank is meant to alleviate pressure from your support and other members in the party. Yeah but in other MMOs they don't gimp the tank classes ability to fit gear compared to the lighter classes...
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4115	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:13:00 - [14] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: * The dps of the hmg (taking into account the wild dispersion) is basically a paintball gun. Do the math. even if one fourth of a Boundless' shots miss it does nearly what a duvolle can do. and if the duvolle wielder decides to shoot at your fat head (which harldy moves even if you're strafing), you can say goodnight. You're wrong about the HMG. And the problem is the range you think you're supposed to be using it at. Use it for what it is, and not what you think it should be, and it's a monster. We fatties aren't getting Chromosome back, so we may as well adjust. aka use it as a glorified camping suit. Do that and you'll be using it for what it's meant for.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4115	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:15:00 - [15] - Quote Just to add what's already been said for a while now...maybe CCP sees this, THE HEAVY CLASS SUCKS AFTER 1.4 Lower bullet spread or increase the dmg of the HMG.
lDocHollidayl Ancient Exiles 294	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:18:00 - [16] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: What I don't understand is what is the point of scout suits and heavies getting less slots than the other suits anyways? Would it really hurt the game to let scouts and heavies +2 slots on every class and suit? They allready have other drawbacks! One is fast with less HP One is low with more HP BAM DONE SIMPLE why take away slots!? Also I miss my 2 equipment slot scout suit when the hell is that coming back :( If Heavy suits could fit more armor plates they could do better on the battle field! I as well have been very confused in the way slots are given in suits... just baffled really. The extra slots for the logi's literary can give a medium suit more HP.
NOAMIzzzzz Pradox XVI 49	Posted - 2013.10.19 02:36:00 - [17] - Quote CCP heavys need a buff why don't yall realize it...after 1.4 heavys suck ass
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 1	Posted - 2013.10.19 04:14:00 - [18] - Quote NOAMIzzzzz wrote: CCP heavys need a buff why don't yall realize it...after 1.4 heavys suck ass Actually i have better idea for CCP, THEY NEED TRY SHOOT SOME WEAPONS!!


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