DUST Search - Sticky:Factional Contract Loyalty Points and Loyalty Store

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Raskutor wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Again for emphasis, having loyalty store items cost both LP and ISK while not rewarding any ISK in faction contracts is very bad given the current situation, and that is the lack of means for income. Right now the only other incomes would be owning a district in PC or playing pub matches. Now I get that you don't want to make FW a progression of pub matches, but you can't FORCE us to play pub matches if we don't want to. And that's what you are doing, you are FORCING us. So either

1) Still reward ISK in faction contracts (perhaps a little less, so you earn more ISK in pubs)
2) Make loyalty store items only cost LP
3) Release the player market at the same time so we have another viable means of getting ISK without forcing us into certain gamemodes.

Note that (1) and (2) could be temporary and go back to as planned upon release of the player market.

This. ^ Pretty much, I ONLY do Amarr Faction Warfare (unless we break Scotty). Some people just would rather do Factional Contracts. So, other than moving to Public Contracts or Planetary Conquest, how are we supposed to make any ISK?

It would work great if there was a secondary market, but without it this will be a dead game mode within days.


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Raskutor DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2013.10.18 20:37:00 - [1] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Again for emphasis, having loyalty store items cost both LP and ISK while not rewarding any ISK in faction contracts is very bad given the current situation, and that is the lack of means for income. Right now the only other incomes would be owning a district in PC or playing pub matches. Now I get that you don't want to make FW a progression of pub matches, but you can't FORCE us to play pub matches if we don't want to. And that's what you are doing, you are FORCING us. So either 1) Still reward ISK in faction contracts (perhaps a little less, so you earn more ISK in pubs) 2) Make loyalty store items only cost LP 3) Release the player market at the same time so we have another viable means of getting ISK without forcing us into certain gamemodes. Note that (1) and (2) could be temporary and go back to as planned upon release of the player market. This. ^ Pretty much, I ONLY do Amarr Faction Warfare (unless we break Scotty). Some people just would rather do Factional Contracts. So, other than moving to Public Contracts or Planetary Conquest, how are we supposed to make any ISK?
Raskutor DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2013.10.19 03:45:00 - [2] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Raskutor wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Again for emphasis, having loyalty store items cost both LP and ISK while not rewarding any ISK in faction contracts is very bad given the current situation, and that is the lack of means for income. Right now the only other incomes would be owning a district in PC or playing pub matches. Now I get that you don't want to make FW a progression of pub matches, but you can't FORCE us to play pub matches if we don't want to. And that's what you are doing, you are FORCING us. So either 1) Still reward ISK in faction contracts (perhaps a little less, so you earn more ISK in pubs) 2) Make loyalty store items only cost LP 3) Release the player market at the same time so we have another viable means of getting ISK without forcing us into certain gamemodes. Note that (1) and (2) could be temporary and go back to as planned upon release of the player market. This. ^ Pretty much, I ONLY do Amarr Faction Warfare (unless we break Scotty). Some people just would rather do Factional Contracts. So, other than moving to Public Contracts or Planetary Conquest, how are we supposed to make any ISK? It would work great if there was a secondary market, but without it this will be a dead game mode within days. That's exactly what I mean. If the player to player market was open, I would not have much of a problem with the removal if ISK rewards for Faction Warfare battles. But, as it is now, there is no such market. Wasn't it said in one of the Dev posts that the player market would definitely be coming, but not at the same time as these changes? (please, correct me if I'm wrong) Therefore, I agree the the ISK rewards should at least be kept in temporarily until such a market is implemented. I just have a bit of a problem with basically being forced into pub matches just to continue making ISK.