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General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:55:00 -
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All CCP needs to do is block proto gear from public matches the same way they block certain types of ships from high sec space. There is already a precedent for it in Eve, so it really kind of makes sense.
In Eve, lesser players can engage in combat in High sec. without having to worry about the other fleet bringing in a Titan or certain types of high end equipment.
Why not simply follow the same plan for Dust?
Personally, I fail to see any down side to this, but what do you think? |
General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:59:00 -
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General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:24:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Organised squads will still stomp randoms, proto gear or not.
agreed. But there needs to be a "safe" place for randoms to play if CCP ever wants to get a large following. |
General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:37:00 -
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nukel head wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Organised squads will still stomp randoms, proto gear or not. That's true, but an organized squad of protos is even worse. Anything that helps with the overall balance and improves the experience in any way for lower level players is VERY important for Dust to keep new people interested and keep it going.
Yeah. What he said |
General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:57:00 -
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Templar 514 wrote:General Sideboob wrote:All CCP needs to do is block proto gear from public matches the same way they block certain types of ships from high sec space. There is already a precedent for it in Eve, so it really kind of makes sense.
In Eve, lesser players can engage in combat in High sec. without having to worry about the other fleet bringing in a Titan or certain types of high end equipment.
Why not simply follow the same plan for Dust?
Personally, I fail to see any down side to this, but what do you think? As someone who actually playes EVE (heresy, I know), the only reason capital-grade warships are not permitted in high-sec is because 0.5-1.0 security space prohibits cynosaural fields from being activated. Capital warships are only able to use jump drives, and thus require a cyno to travel. This still doesn't stop people from suicide ganking and engaging in other similarly "I ruin other people's fun for my fun" activities. It's also important to note that capital and supercapital ships (which require cynos) are the only ones not permitted in highsec areas. It's also worth noting that random unprovoked aggression is punished in highsec by the NPC police CONCORD. Your idea is, unfortunately, terminally flawed.
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General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:05:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Once again... Proto Gear is NOT the problem.
Proto Gear can even represent the only chance for an average player with 5-10 millions SP to have a decent counter against full squads of maxed-out characters that don't even need Proto Gear because of the full Skill Bonuses they receive.
Pulling out a "naked" Duvolle can barely help against a GEK with Level 5 Proficiency... same goes for suits and all the rest.
Some of the best players I know and I play with don't use Proto Gear in pub matches. They redline the enemy team in 1 minute because of their amazing skills and organization. Also, their ADV suits are better than my PRO suit, because they have 20-30 millions SP and I'm not even close to those numbers...
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General Sideboob
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:10:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Once again... Proto Gear is NOT the problem.
Proto Gear can even represent the only chance for an average player with 5-10 millions SP to have a decent counter against full squads of maxed-out characters that don't even need Proto Gear because of the full Skill Bonuses they receive.
Pulling out a "naked" Duvolle can barely help against a GEK with Level 5 Proficiency... same goes for suits and all the rest.
Some of the best players I know and I play with don't use Proto Gear in pub matches. They redline the enemy team in 1 minute because of their amazing skills and organization. Also, their ADV suits are better than my PRO suit, because they have 20-30 millions SP and I'm not even close to those numbers...
Proto gear is not THE problem, but it is A problem. And there is a simple way to fix it. Lower tier players get stomped in Eve as well, but the stomping is nowhere near as gratuitous as it is in Dust. Why? because more advanced players have other toys to play with in low/null sec.
I fail to see how implementing the same type of plan would do anything but improve the Dust experience. Let's say for a moment that we implement this idea, in what ways would it hurt the quality of the game? |
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