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Rei Shepard
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:31:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Is it just my opinion or does the amarr logi (allmost) everything better then the amarr assault? Lets be honest here you loose 50HP on shields but gain more CPU,PG, 3 equipment slots, the 5HP passive reps, the bonus to armor repair modules and 1 additional low slot. All that are by miles better bonuses compared on what you get from the assault
(5% reduction on laser weapon overheat and +5% on shield recharge rate). Its supposed to be armor tanked and it gets a shield bonus (all assaults do that for some unknown reason). So to break it down to survivability:
-loss of the 50hp on shields can easy be compensated by adding a basic plate (85HP) cause it has a additional low slot
-your armor repairs are much better cause you get 2 whopping bonuses (passive repair+module effectivity)
-you have a sidearm like a assault
-3 equipment slots (scanner, nanohive and injector?)
This is not a complain about that the amarr logi is OP cause it is not compared to other logi suits. Its more like that the amarr assault is simply underpowered compared to its logi variant. And dont tell me that using a laser on it makes it valid cause it isnt due to the fact that the AR is and allways will be the best weapon on the game. Scramblers are mediocore but meh.
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OP has not specced into any amarr suits nor amarr weaponary. All opinions from the OP are based on observations and weapon popularity and stat comparison.
If the Assault did not have the assault bonus going for it for Scramblers, the logi purely seen from statistics level would/is superiour in all regards. This is the case for all Logi suits. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:40:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Is it just my opinion or does the amarr logi (allmost) everything better then the amarr assault? Lets be honest here you loose 50HP on shields but gain more CPU,PG, 3 equipment slots, the 5HP passive reps, the bonus to armor repair modules and 1 additional low slot. All that are by miles better bonuses compared on what you get from the assault
(5% reduction on laser weapon overheat and +5% on shield recharge rate). Its supposed to be armor tanked and it gets a shield bonus (all assaults do that for some unknown reason). So to break it down to survivability:
-loss of the 50hp on shields can easy be compensated by adding a basic plate (85HP) cause it has a additional low slot
-your armor repairs are much better cause you get 2 whopping bonuses (passive repair+module effectivity)
-you have a sidearm like a assault
-3 equipment slots (scanner, nanohive and injector?)
This is not a complain about that the amarr logi is OP cause it is not compared to other logi suits. Its more like that the amarr assault is simply underpowered compared to its logi variant. And dont tell me that using a laser on it makes it valid cause it isnt due to the fact that the AR is and allways will be the best weapon on the game. Scramblers are mediocore but meh.
note:
OP has not specced into any amarr suits nor amarr weaponary. All opinions from the OP are based on observations and weapon popularity and stat comparison. If the Assault did not have the assault bonus going for it for Scramblers, the logi purely seen from statistics level would/is superiour in all regards. This is the case for all Logi suits. In terms of more armour HP the logi is better but its not better at assaulting, I have proto of both.
Ow wow you got Both eh ?
I got proto Amarr Assault, Proto caldari Logi and Proto Amarr Logi (all needed modules at proto too and core skills at 5) and i keep building Logi suits to see hmm how much better then my assault can i make these....but i run Amarr Assault on the field because i dont want to run a crutch, but do believe me when i say it aint tempting to run a logi
Btw i can make an exact duplicate of my Amarr Assault suit (proto) with the Amarr Advanced Logi, the only thing it misses is 4 more shots from the SCR at 1/4 the of my assault setup. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:24:00 -
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Quote:Explain how an amarr logi is a crutch? That's ridiculous.
24m+- sp
Its a crutch because i perform better with it then when i deploy in my actual assault suit and in the caldari Logi, i can have 200 more EHP while sporting 3 damage mods instead of the ussual 2.
Its not rocket science dude..the bonus for 4 extra shots can be easely replaced with not missing 4 actual shots in the first place, then the need for no repper coupled to an extra slots on top....
How are they worse then assaults ? oh because they have less Stamina ....right ... |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:36:00 -
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Quote:sprint next to amarr assault with amarr logi and check the distance difference when both are out of stamina, difference is huge. try keep aim at amarr assault strafing, try the same against amarr logi, worlds difference. beside that, it is more than 4 more shots with the SCR, the heat buildup is per second not per shots fire, if you can hit the very trigger fast you get alot more out of it.
I run armor plates in my assault and have a forward speed of 6.39 ussually, my logi has 6.33, most Amaar assaults don't really strafe that fast and even if they did its still more of a Lag/Hitbox issue then actually keeping a crosshair over someone.
For me its 4 shots diffrence, i dont see how if you can get "more shots" out of it benefits me in some way?
Having said that , if you are saying that you cant get better performance out of a logi while assaulting, then either you don't have one or are doing it wrong.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
703
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:40:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Quote:Explain how an amarr logi is a crutch? That's ridiculous. 24m+- sp Its a crutch because i perform better with it then when i deploy in my actual assault suit and in the caldari Logi, i can have 200 more EHP while sporting 3 damage mods instead of the ussual 2. Its not rocket science dude..the bonus for 4 extra shots can be easely replaced with not missing 4 actual shots in the first place, then the need for no repper coupled to an extra slots on top.... How are they worse then assaults ? oh because they have less Stamina ....right ... do you enjoy moving slower than heavies with your amarr logi brick tank? even the average player can keep aim on that easily. assault has also higher strafe speed 
If you had read my post, you would have read that i don't run any logi suits, except for testing, my amarr suit has roughly 700 EHP, thats far from a 1100 EHP Logi brick and the average player is already long dead before he aims at me. |
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