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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:27:00 -
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My official stance is a balanced approach. New content to keep people here, and destroying/paying off the technical debt when possible.
Just right now we're in a weird state where its chicken and egg, content requiring core, core requiring content. |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
784
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:32:00 -
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I'd like to see all the core mechanics halted, release the racial variants of tanks, suits and weapons then carry on with core mechanics seen as everything for the time being would be there to fix. |
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Chimichanga66605
Vader's Taco Shack
50
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:47:00 -
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I'm of the opinion that the core mechanics are "fixed enough." CCP needs to fill in the racial gap as far as content goes, then they can rebalance & start work on new content (PvE, jets, etc...) Just my .02 ISK.
-Chimi out, o7 |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1210
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:00:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Cosgar wrote:Core mechanics and core content. Did you see the topic from the guy still patiently waiting for his Minmatar heavy? Good lord, get that man his suit. I have to go with Cosgar on this. I'm pretty sure CCP is thinking this way too. Here's the thing: given where we started the repair process from, say about 1.2, mechanics had to lead content. There was really no choice at all. If CCP had focused on content first we'd most likely be finished with DUST and moved on to other things, what was left of the forums would be a smoking hellhole with a few sad creatures still flopping around in their death throes and the press would almost certainly be putting the torch to the kindling and pushing the longship bearing the carcass of DUST out to sea.
Somebody made some very good decisions when they needed to be made. If it wasn't Unifex then an upstart has arisen who can give ol' Uni a run for his money ;) Whoever you are, the drinks are on me, mate.
Dayum... you get points for a very descriptive word image. |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1910
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:15:00 -
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its a difficult question, while the game does need to be ballenced, it would be nice to have some of the things that people have been waiting to be ingame for freaking ages. some of these things being the reason they got into the game in the first place. |
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:31:00 -
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Core mechanics, should always be worked on.
I think it should be about 50/50.
If you release one piece of content (minimum) every second monthly release, you have two months to balance it and work out the kinks. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1839
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:My official stance is a balanced approach. New content to keep people here, and destroying/paying off the technical debt when possible.
Just right now we're in a weird state where its chicken and egg, content requiring core, core requiring content. "Shell" Features if you will. Core-like features where there is a large number of dependencies on where as core affects nearly all of the game.
I think is more like ;
Forget about the egg, is getting a bit rotten now... lets just have some fun trying to catch the chicken. |
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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance
618
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:50:00 -
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new content. guns, dropsuits, modules, some purchasable respec where it takes days for it to complete. A better and fun game overall, that keeps you coming back for new things. And better market content. Like "racial" merc packs tailored to a specific role * scouts, assault, logis and heavies. they have to include aur. and boosters. New content. We need change asap. |
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Levithunder
Butt Hurt Try Hards
109
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Honestly ? What they have to lose ? Even if they **** things a bit with lots of content, is not like they going to lost a huge amount of players.
I am saying. its time for some direction or focus rather. if they focus on one or the other alot of results will be seen fast. I just saying, at this point we are near a Closed Beta player base... as things are right now, an aggressive content release road-map will be the most beneficial for CCP. Agressive sloth time! |
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
306
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:07:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Its time to stop riding on the fence and decide. Should their be a flood of new content that is incomplete but at least out to the public? OR should all resources be focused on core mechanics only? The poly-chronic approach is not working right now. too many resources are split between too many projects. To be honest, I think as much new content as possible should be released and then core mechanics fine tuned (since currently they are working reasonably well.). Community, CCPs devs, CPMs, GMs, etc what is your take on this?
- focus full all resources on NEW CONTENT
-OR-
- focus all resources on core mechanics
tally: New content - 11 core mechanics - 4
Your question is actually 2 questions with different answers.
What should CCP be concentrating on if they wish to rebuild this game into a AAA FPS? Answer: Core mechanics What should CCP be concentrating on if they wish to breath some life into the game and not lose all their players? Answer: Content.
See how you sorta can't win. |
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:11:00 -
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new content... enough with the tweaking of the old. |
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Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
488
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Posted - 2013.10.18 10:53:00 -
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core mechanics |
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Jinx Rollin
Commando Perkone Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.10.18 11:30:00 -
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Basic content, new maps/content, mechanics/balance |
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Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
53
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Posted - 2013.10.18 11:39:00 -
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I think that more content at his point is more important. Dust needs sexy new stuff to advertise to the world to bring in new players. More players = more revenue. More revenue allows for more Dev team positions. More dev team positions = more progress on the game that could last for decades... if it has a growing player base with good player retention.
I believe the players are our future... treat them well and let them lead the way...
Go team Content! |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:14:00 -
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Core mechanics everytime
Add in new content which is broken as ****, it breaks the entire game because FOTM fits appear and are used in all matches from pubs to PC to get the advantage and breaks the game which leads to lots of QQ when it isnt automatically fixed, also it takes more time to fix the problem when it actually would take time if the new content was balanced and not broken to begin with
You fix the core |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1849
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:22:00 -
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NEW CONTENT
when I say NEW I mean focus all effort on filling in MISSING BASIC BASE CONTENT that should of been in the game on launch day...
The table doesn't show the next match...
We don't have the full set of dropsuits...
Skirmish 1.0 was the best game mode we had and now we've gone backwards in terms of gamemodes we have less than we use to.
Basic weapons so the AR line and such can be balanced.
PvE because it's in every trailer
Letting Dust kill eve ships
player to player one on one trading, at least should of been here day 1 |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:24:00 -
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Hellkeizer wrote:You know that more resources are working on mechanics right now anyway. It's the fact that the resources are being wasted on balancing things when core content isn't out
YES! THIS! |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:39:00 -
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Just wanted to point out that this new content you're saying is more important is probably content we should already have. |
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1211
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:46:00 -
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Core mechanics.
I'm tired of dying because something isn't balanced or people are abushing glitchs.
Give us a solid base then throw stuff at us. |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:55:00 -
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anymore? |
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Lightning xVx
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:03:00 -
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Sufficient enough to move on to next phase. BUT remember, you can't have a FPS without the core mechanics down. DONT FORGET IT CCP! |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
335
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:09:00 -
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CCP rouge, in a resent interview with polygon, was characterized as having said/meant the following:
"He also plans to experiment while listening to the community and "course correct" when necessary"
Well here's your chance buba, give us content. |
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DJINN Stephani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:12:00 -
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3 months ago I would have said core mechanics, but now I'm gonna say we desperately need some new content |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:13:00 -
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so far we have 20 for new content verses 7 for core mechanics |
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Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:18:00 -
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Come on people we need more votes. I want to see this thread grow to twenty pages. |
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Dalorian Riften
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:24:00 -
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With the way the game is now.... Either one will be a push forward unless they manage to F*** it up again ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:28:00 -
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New Content.
Instead of cross-training out of Fatties, I just stopped playing as much. Gimme something new, CCP. |
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Bubbles moon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.10.18 22:59:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Just wanted to point out that this new content you're saying is more important is probably content we should already have.
I'd like to repeat this statement/
So content, but my vote is for only missing core content |
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.10.19 00:49:00 -
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new content - 23 core mechanics - 7 |
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Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
581
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Posted - 2013.10.19 02:19:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Its time to stop riding on the fence and decide. Should their be a flood of new content that is incomplete but at least out to the public? OR should all resources be focused on core mechanics only? The poly-chronic approach is not working right now. too many resources are split between too many projects. To be honest, I think as much new content as possible should be released and then core mechanics fine tuned (since currently they are working reasonably well.). Community, CCPs devs, CPMs, GMs, etc what is your take on this?
- focus full all resources on NEW CONTENT
-OR-
- focus all resources on core mechanics
tally: New content - 20 core mechanics - 7
+1 for new content, I would really rather have that than core mechanics; I think CCP is almost done with the core mechanics anyway when December rolls around. |
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