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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2866
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:18:00 -
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Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles? |
Joel II X
AHPA
38
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:22:00 -
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I remember when squad meant 4...
But to answer you question: no. A squad doesn't guarantee a victory unless they're good and organized (notice how I didn't mention gear?). |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
395
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:25:00 -
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6 is a good number for squad size. The problem is that 16 per team is a bit too low considering Dust's map size and gameplay style. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3265
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles?
Does it matter? Last night our 5 man squad took down 2 squads of 5 men. Does it matter who gets organised if you can beat them through team work? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2866
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:27:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:6 is a good number for squad size. The problem is that 16 per team is a bit too low considering Dust's map size and gameplay style.
Obviously 16 is too low, but I agree 6 is a good squad size. Still, since it is only 16 per side then squads should really be limited to 4 players in public matches. If you want your 6 man squads to FW or something. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2866
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles? Does it matter? Last night our 5 man squad took down 2 squads of 5 men. Does it matter who gets organised if you can beat them through team work? It does matter if you just want to play some casual matches but can't find a darn one without 6 prototype caldari assaults/logis with duvolles.
I'm talking about pub matches, which are supposed to be casual friendly, and are not.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3268
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:30:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles? Does it matter? Last night our 5 man squad took down 2 squads of 5 men. Does it matter who gets organised if you can beat them through team work? It does matter if you just want to play some casual matches but can't find a darn one without 6 prototype caldari assaults/logis with duvolles. I'm talking about pub matches, which are supposed to be casual friendly, and are not.
Meh Sandbox.
Its like when you go for a casual roam around low sec and you get jumped by a fleet of battle ships and an Archon capital ship.
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KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1870
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles? Does it matter? Last night our 5 man squad took down 2 squads of 5 men. Does it matter who gets organised if you can beat them through team work?
;') so beautiful ... +1 |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2867
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:34:00 -
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None of you guys are getting the point. I'm not saying "nerf teamwork" or "make squads smaller." Keep it all the same. What I am saying is there should be some place for people to go if they want to play a little more casually that limits the squad size. I understand "sandbox," that's not the point. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2867
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:40:00 -
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Updated the OP since people are missing the point. And True, when was the last time you played the game without a squad? When was the last time you were even remotely interested in playing without a squad? What about the last time you logged on, saw none of your usual squad guys on, and decided to log off? Exactly. |
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Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
654
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:42:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Anyone else think that is way too many spots for an organized squad to fill in casual battles?
EDIT:
Here's a little more details what I mean,
Public Matches: 4 man squads max. No team deploy. No impact on anything in New Eden. A place for people to go for more casual play while some minor limitations to ensure matches are a little more competitive. Great if you only have a couple buddies to squad with or no one at all.
Faction Warfare: 6 man squads max. Team deployed allowed. Impact on New Eden. A place for more competitive battles and people who want to play the sandbox.
Planetary Conquest: 6 man squads max. Team deployed allowed. Impact on New Eden. A place for complete organization of all war efforts and full sandbox experience.
in pubs, I think squads should be allowed 4 people max
in FW, I think squads should be allowed 6 people max
in PC, I think squads should be allowed 8 people max |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
817
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:44:00 -
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Public matches need a gear level limit to make it casual. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1213
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:47:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I remember when squad meant 4...
But to answer you question: no. A squad doesn't guarantee a victory unless they're good and organized (notice how I didn't mention gear?).
Gear makes up for not being good. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3269
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:48:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Updated the OP since people are missing the point. And True, when was the last time you played the game without a squad? When was the last time you were even remotely interested in playing without a squad? What about the last time you logged on, saw none of your usual squad guys on, and decided to log off? Exactly.
Last time I did was a great 17/0 match, but I understand your point, though I try not to play this game alone because it simply is too boring without friends to talk to. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2870
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:49:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Public matches need a gear level limit to make it casual.
Gear makes up for not being good. [/quote]Disagree there, just a little less organization is all IMO. Organization is great, but if everywhere you go is full of completely organized squads then there is no casual sector. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1872
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:53:00 -
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yesterday i played a Domination ; 1 vs 9.
I went 19-8 and had a LOAD of fun , SCR + A.Scanner and went hunting >:3 even took ''A'' a couple of times to take out enemy MCC shields :3
Not very revlevant,just stroking my e-p33n here... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2870
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Posted - 2013.10.17 18:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:yesterday i played a Domination ; 1 vs 9.
I went 19-8 and had a LOAD of fun , SCR + A.Scanner and went hunting >:3 even took ''A'' a couple of times to take out enemy MCC shields :3
Not very revlevant,just stroking my e-p33n here...
You're right, it's not relevent at all. I have great matches when going solo too, doesn't change the fact that there is a high probability you're going to walk into a pub stomp. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1873
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:10:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:yesterday i played a Domination ; 1 vs 9.
I went 19-8 and had a LOAD of fun , SCR + A.Scanner and went hunting >:3 even took ''A'' a couple of times to take out enemy MCC shields :3
Not very revlevant,just stroking my e-p33n here... You're right, it's not relevent at all. I have great matches when going solo too, doesn't change the fact that there is a high probability you're going to walk into a pub stomp.
tru tru |
ReGnYuM
MoIden Heath PoIice Department
EoN.
1126
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:21:00 -
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After yesterday,
I will never solo Dust again
6 man is too much 16v16 ambush |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
2064
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Posted - 2013.10.17 19:59:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:6 is a good number for squad size. The problem is that 16 per team is a bit too low considering Dust's map size and gameplay style.
With 6 man squads, it should be 18v18 at the smallest. |
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