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General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:54:00 -
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I have to tell you it wasn't very much fun. I have played about 500 hours of this game and have yet to see a close match. Are there any plans in the works to make this game a little more fun and a little less depressing? |
Zero Roamero
NaphBlade
15
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:04:00 -
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I'm pretty sure their trying. |
General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
113
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:20:00 -
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How sure are you? I mean the concept of a fair chance is like game design 101 and they haven't done a whole lot about it in almost a year.
The strange thing is ccp handled this quite well in Eve. Why don't they just make a system of graduated levels for players just like the security zones in Eve. In fact, they could use the Eve sec. ratings already.
It's like they are hoping that I will try spending aurum to stop getting pub stomped, which isn't going to happen.
Shame on you CCP |
General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
113
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:30:00 -
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Make that 16 pubstomps in a row. This game is broken. |
DJINN Jecture
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
65
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:41:00 -
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There are plenty of close matches, been playing for more than 500hrs and it hasn't been hard to find them. This patch has seen some scotty issues already. Check out the Spawn Jammer, it may help turn the tide against proto stompers. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:01:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:How sure are you? I mean the concept of a fair chance is like game design 101 and they haven't done a whole lot about it in almost a year.
The strange thing is ccp handled this quite well in Eve. Why don't they just make a system of graduated levels for players just like the security zones in Eve. In fact, they could use the Eve sec. ratings already.
It's like they are hoping that I will try spending aurum to stop getting pub stomped, which isn't going to happen.
Shame on you CCP
I've seen that said by ex-players in posts before. They hated that fact and like I said before , try making a character that doesn't use the boosters , buys that AURUM items , be they weapons , drop suits or whatever and see how much fun you will have and how long you play with that character. Once they get everything balanced out though , I think you will see a lot better gameplay and a lot of the ex-players coming back. But they need to balance it out. I'm not like most but I hope that they do it before I die or become too old to enjoy it. I hope they are taking their time so they can make sure after doing so , they wont have to go back and do it again. |
Text Grant
Death Firm.
185
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Posted - 2013.10.18 02:13:00 -
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You may like this
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115150&find=unread |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1222
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:59:00 -
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Just give us some faqing filters now.
Let me choose if I want to play with proto or not, or with squads or not
Just, do it now before this REALLY gets out of hand.
(These filters work off of that the proto suit/weapon (None of the other things really imbalance the matches) and then the game makes those fits invalid (Like when you run out of fits or CPU and PG is over limits) and Ta-da. Matchmaking fixed. ) |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:23:00 -
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weird, these days I have far more close matches than stomps.
Don't play FW and except any kind of matchmaking though.
What makes you think they got this right in EVE? last time I checked, eve didn't have any matchmaking or stops for stomping/dropping/blopping or how you want to call it? |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
233
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:30:00 -
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Concept of dust: -have proto -have a good team -stomp n00bs whole day long in pub matches
If you fail to have this then your destiny on Dust is doom and you are branded as canonfodder for the rest of your life. And no milita gear is not competetive. |
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X7 lion
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
37
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:20:00 -
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they say ignorance is bliss but you guys seem to be going through hell. |
Kaze Eyrou
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
373
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:44:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Make that 16 pubstomps in a row. This game is broken. Actually, the matchmaking was working quite nicely... But I have noticed that the matchmaking seems to be completely gone when I'm queuing solo.
Couple of questions: Are you running solo when you are queuing? If you are, how long are the wait times, both estimated and actual?
In any case, I believe somebody accidentally knocked a power switch somewhere as it feels to have been working around 1.4 and now with 1.5 out, someone tripped on the power strip....
Or tripped and ripped it out of the wall... |
Talos Vagheitan
King Slayers
93
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:33:00 -
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Agree it's an issue. in the description of Pub Matches, it says "intended for lone wolves, or small squads". If CCP made that the case, the it would help with pubstomping |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns Public Disorder.
667
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:06:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:The strange thing is ccp handled this quite well in Eve. Why don't they just make a system of graduated levels for players just like the security zones in Eve. In fact, they could use the Eve sec. ratings already.
I don't think you've played eve before.... |
Draco Cerberus
Hell's Gate Inc
406
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:21:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Just give us some faqing filters now.
Let me choose if I want to play with proto or not, or with squads or not
Just, do it now before this REALLY gets out of hand.
(These filters work off of that the proto suit/weapon (None of the other things really imbalance the matches) and then the game makes those fits invalid (Like when you run out of fits or CPU and PG is over limits) and Ta-da. Matchmaking fixed. ) What about this instead? Open World Dust 514:Lobby meets Sandbox |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1998
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:28:00 -
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Are you playing in squad? Because I can't remember the last time I got stomped 8 times in a row.
Get a full squad. I've had a lot of down-to-the-wire games in recent memory. |
Sky Kage
Last Word Productions
0
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:44:00 -
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The game is not Broken... There are currently, what? 3000 ps3 dust players? and out of all 3000 of them, 1000 have 5m+ total sp and out of those 1000, 200 have 10m+ total sp.
Once dust gets more players, games will be more diverse and less of a "am i going to get my ass handed to me" or "lets go make a strawberry pie out of them reds!" type of game.
Also gotta remember everyone collects passive sp, so if a guy doesn't like the game one month and he desides to come back and check the game again 4 months later... boooooom! he has 2m unallocated sp points just waitng to be tinkered with. |
General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
124
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:49:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Concept of dust: -have proto -have a good team -stomp n00bs whole day long in pub matches
If you fail to have this then your destiny on Dust is doom and you are branded as canonfodder for the rest of your life. And no milita gear is not competetive.
Incorrect. Stop being an a-hole and stay out of public matches. |
General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
124
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Posted - 2013.10.18 14:51:00 -
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Sky Kage wrote:The game is not Broken... There are currently, what? 3000 ps3 dust players? and out of all 3000 of them, 1000 have 5m+ total sp and out of those 1000, 200 have 10m+ total sp.
Once dust gets more players, games will be more diverse and less of a "am i going to get my ass handed to me" or "lets go make a strawberry pie out of them reds!" type of game.
Also gotta remember everyone collects passive sp, so if a guy doesn't like the game one month and he desides to come back and check the game again 4 months later... boooooom! he has 2m unallocated sp points just waitng to be tinkered with.
Dude. Dust will never get more players if you stomp them every match.
and btw, the fact that there are only 3000 people playing = complete and utter fail of the game. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1224
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Posted - 2013.10.18 15:52:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Just give us some faqing filters now.
Let me choose if I want to play with proto or not, or with squads or not
Just, do it now before this REALLY gets out of hand.
(These filters work off of that the proto suit/weapon (None of the other things really imbalance the matches) and then the game makes those fits invalid (Like when you run out of fits or CPU and PG is over limits) and Ta-da. Matchmaking fixed. ) What about this instead? Open World Dust 514:Lobby meets Sandbox It's a good idea, but considering the huge number of planets we have, along with having everyone on an open map may just cause PC level lag for everyone |
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General Sideboob
Ground Pounders Inc.
124
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:16:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Just give us some faqing filters now.
Let me choose if I want to play with proto or not, or with squads or not
Just, do it now before this REALLY gets out of hand.
(These filters work off of that the proto suit/weapon (None of the other things really imbalance the matches) and then the game makes those fits invalid (Like when you run out of fits or CPU and PG is over limits) and Ta-da. Matchmaking fixed. ) What about this instead? Open World Dust 514:Lobby meets Sandbox
Interesting. |
Zero Roamero
NaphBlade
15
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Posted - 2013.10.18 16:30:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Concept of dust: -have proto -have a good team -stomp n00bs whole day long in pub matches
If you fail to have this then your destiny on Dust is doom and you are branded as canonfodder for the rest of your life. And no milita gear is not competetive.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with this. I think the goal of the game is patience and dedication. NOW- I am not the best Dust player in the world (I have over 3,000 deaths and only a little over 1,000 kills.......in counting). But I try to think of ways to improve on my game skills ad take into account what I haven't done (that must be what the dropsuits are for), and work on that.
Not to mention there will always be trollz who think they are better than everyone else- IN EVERY GAME. That won't change. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.10.18 17:37:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Concept of dust: -have proto -have a good team -stomp n00bs whole day long in pub matches
If you fail to have this then your destiny on Dust is doom and you are branded as canonfodder for the rest of your life. And no milita gear is not competetive. Incorrect. Stop being an a-hole and stay out of public matches. Try to stop me. |
Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
910
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Posted - 2013.10.18 18:00:00 -
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removing gimmicks from the game would help. Make nades non refillable, stop Ugie pie players from abusing the MD, assign scanners as scout only. This would be a good start. |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:49:00 -
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Next time you get stomped notice how many uplinks the other team has deployed compared to your team.
Notice how many scanners are running compared to your team.
Notice how many decent logis the other team has compared to your team.
Notice how the team doing the stomping defends cannons and waits for the change before moving to the next one.
It's gameplay that enables the stomp not the gear. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
469
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Posted - 2013.10.18 23:10:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:I have to tell you it wasn't very much fun. I have played about 500 hours of this game and have yet to see a close match. Are there any plans in the works to make this game a little more fun and a little less depressing? The whole point of eve and dust is that they are brutally unfair. its bound to happen. All you can do is hope that you are on the stomping team. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1172
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Posted - 2013.10.19 01:59:00 -
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I've had my fair share of "even" matches and they are the ones that usually just drag on.....and on......and on..... |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
174
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Posted - 2013.10.19 07:31:00 -
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There's probably plenty of plans, but obviously this kind of thing still happens, the only thing you can really do is run with good squads and work on buffing your character. Maybe work in some more flexibility, so you can at least do something if it's a really bad match. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2013.10.19 10:22:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:I have to tell you it wasn't very much fun. I have played about 500 hours of this game and have yet to see a close match. Are there any plans in the works to make this game a little more fun and a little less depressing? Public contract match or factional warfafe match?
I've only just noticed myself that public contract, when it does work and get a game together, gets guys of a somewhat similar power level. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
81
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Posted - 2013.10.19 15:59:00 -
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There's not enough people online to sepperate battles that much, 4k people at peak hours So right now thats less than 1000 per game mode 16 man teams so 32 per game So that's about 30 games of each type going on at one time Assuming each maych takes 15 minutes with a 3 minute que About 1/5 of people would be queuing up for a match at one time so about 6 total matches. That would mean 1/6 of the player base would need your exact preferences to fill a match this isn't including people editing their suits, talking in a chat channel eating bathroom afking or anything else this also at peak hours So at peak you'd need close to 35% of dust using your preferences and 40% of dust using your preferences at non peak |
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
102
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Posted - 2013.10.19 16:58:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Make that 16 pubstomps in a row. This game is broken.
I'm alarmed that at first it was 8 and then it was 16. That's an even number and multiple...which tells me either you're OCD and have to play an even amount or just not easily discouraged.
I've been playing this game religiously for nearly 5 months and I just checked my last 30 games. Won 24, lost 6. So you got "pub/proto stomped" 16 games in a row? What modes?
A lot of blueberries have just graduated the Academy and are running around unsure of what to do. I suggest getting a good corp, good players and rolling with them in squads. I roll with The Neutral Zone and those guys are bosses the same way I'm a boss.
We put up big numbers, drop crushing orbitals and even get lucky sometimes to get TWO squads of our guys (12 out of 16 of us in the match) to whip some ass. That's only happened a couple times for me but that was a really kickass coincidence.
But I find it incredibly, INCREDIBLY difficult to believe you were pubstomped 16 games straight. I'm not saying you didn't...but I can't lie to you and tell you I don't smell whining and complaining and a little crying wolf, holmes.
But yeah...take my advice, find some bro's to roll with and learn to balance each other out. That's my best advice I can give you. The game IS unbalanced in some ways....but whole squads of guys rocking proto gear is what is SUPPOSED to happen because they worked hard and got pubstomped by guys like them before they were guys like them and they earned all their proto ass-whipping gear.
Dig it? |
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