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Posted - 2013.10.17 14:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Then why does DUST have boosters?
I thought the games were in the same universe and that in EVE you can't spend a penny on SP, just more ISK?
So EVE fanboys, if we can't have respecs because EVE doesn't have them, then why can we have SP boosters?
O.o
Actually, you can, they just don't work in the same way.
In Eve, each character has stats (intelligence, charisma, willpower, etc). Each skill uses two stats to determine how many SP are needed to earn a level in that skill. This means that if I have a lower perception stat than you do, it will take me longer to train a skill whose primary stat is willpower. To help with Eve does two things:
1. Period reassignment of points between stats
2. Implants that boost individual stat scores
These are lacking in Dust, and now that I think about it, I am starting to see a reason lore wise why Dust mercs should get limited respecs periodically, so that Dust stays in line with Eve. As an alternative, I suppose CCP could introduce these stats and implants in Dust, but I think its too early for this. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:20:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:In EVE you just train several characters at once passively for whatever you want or you just buy a new character that is trained for something else that you want to have, which basically is a respec.
in short: everything against respecs is null and void.
1. You can only train one character per account at an a time, just like in Dust
2. You can buy a new character but you cannot chose the skills; if that character has skills you don't want/need you cannot change them. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 16:59:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:We have implants. Buy a PLEX sell it for ISK and then buy your implants to train faster. At least in EVE you can lose those if you get podded, and I get the feeling they last just a smidge longer than an active booster (assuming you don't get podded) Takahiro Kashuken wrote:You really think ADHD players can deal with just passive SP and being stuck with milita for 3months? As an ADHD OCD player I can say that it would be a hell of a lot easier on me personally if we just had 100% passive with the same amount of SP gain as we do right now between the two. I would like to train skills like in EVE though, where you choose a skill to train and it passively trains in the background they last forever, as long as you dont die. beside that, you can have more clones than one, if you go out fighting you simply jump into a clone without implants and keep the one with implants safe in station. and I can only repeat myself, in EVE if I today decide I want a different pilot, I just go to the market and buy a different character... anti respec busted... the anti respec faction should just take their heads out of their a$$es and wake up from their tunnelvision trance or go play CoD where AR 514 kids belong. not everyone wants to play AR514 all day long and some people want to test other stuff to give feedback to the devs.
Ok - but buying a new character is not a respec. Also, by this token, Dust players will have to pay millions upon millions to buy a new character if you want to implement this. But we can agree it is still not the same as a respec - after all I still keep the original character with its skill points. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:11:00 -
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I could see a limited SP respec twice a year (similar to how we can reassign stat points in Eve twice a year). I would say you need to be limited to respecing a limited amount of SP though, so that there is still a consequence for making a mistake in what you chose, just like in Eve.
And yes, I am a long time Eve player, but I am also a long time Dust player. The games need to be similar, but not identical. At the same time, I don't like the idea of a carte blache to change everything about your character - I am a firm believer in living with your choices, good or bad. |
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:24:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Then why does DUST have boosters?
I thought the games were in the same universe and that in EVE you can't spend a penny on SP, just more ISK?
So EVE fanboys, if we can't have respecs because EVE doesn't have them, then why can we have SP boosters?
O.o NVm all these carebear autopilot autotracking slightly better then tabtarget EVE scrubs. All their whining about EVE this and EVE that is why noone really plays this game anymore. But hey 10 year roadmap, in 10 years this game will be Awesome and every console FPS scrub will rue that day! 
Fail insult is fail. |
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