Nice! Can't wait for the the Complex Shield nerf.

Enhanced Shield Extenders are delusional, especially when compared to the Basic and the Complex versions.

Enhanced Extenders have a reason to exist even for maxed out characters, since they fit in our STD and ADV suits and they can be a reasonable choice even for PRO suits when we have limited PG and CPU.

But, of course, the current status of Enhanced Extenders is the biggest let-down for newer characters still specializing and grinding precious SP to upgrade their equipment. This is the main reason why I think their stats need to be changed.

BASIC SHIELD EXTENDER:

HP: 22
CPU: 18
PG: 3

ENHANCED SHIELD EXTENDER:

HP: 33
CPU: 36
PG: 6

COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER:

HP: 66
CPU: 54
PG: 11

Comparison:

-From Basic to Enhanced

HP +50%
CPU cost: +100%
PG cost: +100%

-From Enhanced to Complex:

HP +100%
CPU cost: +50%
PG cost: +45,45%

-From Basic to Complex:

HP +300%
CPU cost: +300%
PG cost: +366,66%

STATEMENTS:

The Basic and the Complex Extenders are very well balanced, with the Complex being ALMOST as good as 3 Basics, except for the negligible PG penalty. This makes the Complex Extender a great module, since many modules are not as effective as multiple copies of their cheaper versions.

The Complex Extender is particularly better than the Enhanced, since it gives double the amount of HP but its overall cost is less than 150% the Enhanced cost!

But at the same time, the Enhanced Extender is really terrible compared to the Complex. This huge gap makes it totally obsolete and it should NOT be like that. Right now, it is MUCH better to fit exclusively basic extenders and save the massive amount of PG and CPU for anything else!

But the Enhanced Extenders are really terrible when you compare them to the Basic. These are not Armor Plates, where the difference is still 25 HP between tiers, the HP amounts are higher from the start and the CPU difference is very limited.

If you have 3 high slots and you replace your Basic Extender with Enhanced ones, you gain 33 HP total at the cost of 54 CPU and 9 PG, which is almost the cost of one Complex Extender (which gives you 66 HP)!

FINAL VERDICT AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:

Enhanced Shield Extenders are underperforming, because they give you MUCH less than you expect from their fitting cost.

I believe this is the right thing to do:

Enhanced Shield Extender:

HP: 33
CPU: 36 -> 30
PG: 6 -> 5

Thank you for reading, both Mercs and Developers. Feel free to comment and discuss.

Honestly, I think both the non-complex shield extenders are underperforming. The basic isn't even enough to protect you from a single SMG shot, and you've highlighted part of the poor performance of enhanced extenders here - they're not much different from basic.

I think the scaling model we currently have with armour is the way to go- there's a noticeable increase in HP as you go through the tiers, and for the most part they're all usable.

This is a problem for most modules from a new player perspective. I think modules should work kind of like weapons do. With each level of weapon doing 5% more damage than the last. Modules should follow a similar pattern. The disparity between complex, enhanced and basic modules makes new players feel superbly weak. Resulting in most not staying around.

Enhanced Shield Extenders are delusional, especially when compared to the Basic and the Complex versions.



FINAL VERDICT AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:

Enhanced Shield Extenders are underperforming, because they give you MUCH less than you expect from their fitting cost.

I believe this is the right thing to do:

Enhanced Shield Extender:

HP: 33
CPU: 36 -> 30
PG: 6 -> 5

Thank you for reading, both Mercs and Developers. Feel free to comment and discuss.

They do give you that option. You have five percent for the actual skill set before you apply it to obtain the actual item. You know that. That's why I went level three before I obtained the actual enhanced mods. But really it still doesn't matter unless you have proto's. Most people that believe We ( being new bee's ) complain is because they have proto's in some form or fashion. It does cause problems and it is misleading , working hard believing that you've obtained something that should be helpful , it runs extra and added computer and programming , when it's only like a three percent boost and that might be generous.

Shield HP
22 -> 33 -> 66

Armor plates:
10/1 - 85hp, 2%
20/6 - 110hp, 3%
30/12 - 135hp, 5%

Shield HP goes: +11, then +33. Huuuuge jump. Or you could look at it as +50%... then +200%. Shield fitting is comparatively normal: 18, 36, 54 (+18) and 3, 6, 11 (+3, +5). This is similar to plate fitting in progression: 10, 20, 30 (+10), 1, 6, 12 (+5, +6). They're both "fairly" linear fitting-wise, and armor is exactly linear on hp with the +25%.

The contrasting factors here are that the speed penalty build is disproportionate on the plates (you take twice the increase in speed penalty for the exact same increase in hp going to complex on armor plates), and that the HP progression on extenders gives you paltry returns on ADV, and triples the degree of increase on complex while holding fitting at the same progression.

It might make more sense to have the ADV extender at 44hp, which would preserve linear progression on the shield extenders. That's a bit off-topic though. Hmm.

The short of it is that the ADV hp should change to 44.

or the complex could be lowered to 55...

Honestly, I think both the non-complex shield extenders are underperforming. The basic isn't even enough to protect you from a single SMG shot, and you've highlighted part of the poor performance of enhanced extenders here - they're not much different from basic.

I think the scaling model we currently have with armour is the way to go- there's a noticeable increase in HP as you go through the tiers, and for the most part they're all usable.

This is why the Damage Mods go in the high slot too.

The Basic and the Complex Extenders are very well balanced, with the Complex being ALMOST as good as 3 Basics, except for the negligible PG penalty. This makes the Complex Extender a great module, since many modules are not as effective as multiple copies of their cheaper versions.

[quote=Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui][quote=RedZer0 MK1]This is a problem for most modules from a new player perspective. I think modules should work kind of like weapons do. With each level of weapon doing 5% more damage than the last. Modules should follow a similar pattern. The disparity between complex, enhanced and basic modules makes new players feel superbly weak. Resulting in most not staying around.[/quote






Are you talking about the passive bonus for modules?