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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:37:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Enhanced Shield Extenders are delusional, especially when compared to the Basic and the Complex versions.
Enhanced Extenders have a reason to exist even for maxed out characters, since they fit in our STD and ADV suits and they can be a reasonable choice even for PRO suits when we have limited PG and CPU.
But, of course, the current status of Enhanced Extenders is the biggest let-down for newer characters still specializing and grinding precious SP to upgrade their equipment. This is the main reason why I think their stats need to be changed.
BASIC SHIELD EXTENDER:
HP: 22
CPU: 18
PG: 3
ENHANCED SHIELD EXTENDER:
HP: 33
CPU: 36
PG: 6
COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER:
HP: 66
CPU: 54
PG: 11
Comparison:
-From Basic to Enhanced
HP +50%
CPU cost: +100%
PG cost: +100%
-From Enhanced to Complex:
HP +100%
CPU cost: +50%
PG cost: +45,45%
-From Basic to Complex:
HP +300%
CPU cost: +300%
PG cost: +366,66%
STATEMENTS:
The Basic and the Complex Extenders are very well balanced, with the Complex being ALMOST as good as 3 Basics, except for the negligible PG penalty. This makes the Complex Extender a great module, since many modules are not as effective as multiple copies of their cheaper versions.
The Complex Extender is particularly better than the Enhanced, since it gives double the amount of HP but its overall cost is less than 150% the Enhanced cost!
But at the same time, the Enhanced Extender is really terrible compared to the Complex. This huge gap makes it totally obsolete and it should NOT be like that. Right now, it is MUCH better to fit exclusively basic extenders and save the massive amount of PG and CPU for anything else!
But the Enhanced Extenders are really terrible when you compare them to the Basic. These are not Armor Plates, where the difference is still 25 HP between tiers, the HP amounts are higher from the start and the CPU difference is very limited.
If you have 3 high slots and you replace your Basic Extender with Enhanced ones, you gain 33 HP total at the cost of 54 CPU and 9 PG, which is almost the cost of one Complex Extender (which gives you 66 HP)!
FINAL VERDICT AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:
Enhanced Shield Extenders are underperforming, because they give you MUCH less than you expect from their fitting cost.
I believe this is the right thing to do:
Enhanced Shield Extender:
HP: 33
CPU: 36 -> 30
PG: 6 -> 5
Thank you for reading, both Mercs and Developers. Feel free to comment and discuss.
I love this piece. Really well explained and so truthful. As well as the armor , let's not forget that too. I've realized that this game is privy to proto's . If you don't have proto's then there really is no need to complain , because all else is nothing , except for the blueprints. I have went face to face with multiple toxin's and they take me and my gek-38 ,with enhanced mods down. Even if I'm strafing or not. That's why I wrote that piece before about being fed up. I mean what do I grind for skill points for??? Oh yeah ... to get proto's , because nothing else on this game matters. That also goes for the mods. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.10.16 15:46:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:This is a problem for most modules from a new player perspective. I think modules should work kind of like weapons do. With each level of weapon doing 5% more damage than the last. Modules should follow a similar pattern. The disparity between complex, enhanced and basic modules makes new players feel superbly weak. Resulting in most not staying around.
They do give you that option. You have five percent for the actual skill set before you apply it to obtain the actual item. You know that. That's why I went level three before I obtained the actual enhanced mods. But really it still doesn't matter unless you have proto's. Most people that believe We ( being new bee's ) complain is because they have proto's in some form or fashion. It does cause problems and it is misleading , working hard believing that you've obtained something that should be helpful , it runs extra and added computer and programming , when it's only like a three percent boost and that might be generous. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.16 16:18:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Enhanced Shield Extenders are delusional, especially when compared to the Basic and the Complex versions.
FINAL VERDICT AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:
Enhanced Shield Extenders are underperforming, because they give you MUCH less than you expect from their fitting cost.
I believe this is the right thing to do:
Enhanced Shield Extender:
HP: 33
CPU: 36 -> 30
PG: 6 -> 5
Thank you for reading, both Mercs and Developers. Feel free to comment and discuss.
You might even want to go to forty on the hit points , because you go from twenty-two to thirty- three and from thirty-three to sixty-six??? There is no middle ground and I like your computer and programming adjustments if it's at least forty. Not thirty-three , still with that massive amount of computer and programming usage. The aim should be to balance out the suits to where they can support the mods ...i.e. basic supports basic , series and pros support enhanced and so on. But it doesn't and that's what they need to fix. The suits should bridge , like militia to basic and basic to series and so on but the mods don't support that ideal. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.10.17 15:45:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:[quote=Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui][quote=RedZer0 MK1]This is a problem for most modules from a new player perspective. I think modules should work kind of like weapons do. With each level of weapon doing 5% more damage than the last. Modules should follow a similar pattern. The disparity between complex, enhanced and basic modules makes new players feel superbly weak. Resulting in most not staying around.[/quote
Are you talking about the passive bonus for modules?
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back to you , but I guess that's what it's called. You know the drop suit armor or shield upgrades give you a five percent boost to the maximum level and that two percent , to the module efficacy for the actual plating and extensions. So that's what I meant , that I applied the skill points to the actual upgrade and increased my total before acquiring the actual extensions and plating. |
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