Vulpes Dolosus
Neanderthal Nation
Public Disorder.
100
   |
Posted - 2013.10.16 02:44:00 -
[1] - Quote
TL;DR THIS IS NOT A RESPEC! Getting that out of the way right now. What this is is a way to put skill points from one skill into a newly released skill of a similar category. Justification is in the body so pelase consider before "QQ LOL NO RESPECZ." This is justified and not game-breaking.
What This Is
This allows a one-time opportunity for players who have been forced into choosing currently available weapons and vehicles to allocate their skill points into skills for similar, newly released content that they would have chosen had they been available. This will be a single use, full transfer of skill points from one skill tree into another that has just been released that is identical besides racial differences. This will not apply to new or unique concepts, only weapons and vehicles that differ by racial benefits (such as the combat rifle and rail rifle, the heavy suits, and racial tanks, dropships, LAVs, etc.).
For example: currently, pilots can only choose from Gallente and Caldari (armour and shield respectively) vehicles. Imagine, for whatever reason being role-playing, fan-boying, or liking the defensive/offensive philosophies, a pilot wants to pilot Minmatar vehicles (also assume that they don't want to go into infantry). So he wants to pilot Minmatar, but due to *cough*thisgameisstillinbeta*cough* not being released yet, he has no choice but to go either Cal or Gal and must skill into one of those trees despite what he otherwise might have chosen. So on the advent of the racial vehicles, it would be a disservice to have his wast all that time (and possible money) that skillpoints represent to be effectively wasted on merely a placeholder he was virtually forced into.
What This Is NOT
This is not a respecialization of skill points. Players will not be allowed to chase after new careers or new "FotM." They can only specialize into newly released similar racial skill trees of racial weapons and vehicles. So a pilot can't suddenly go infantry due to vehicle changes and visa versa. Also, taking the AR and SCR for example, if the Combat and Rail rifles are released, players cannot spec from AR to SCR, only into newly released skills. Again, this is only to provide a way for players to get into racial specializations they couldn't have gone into due to it unavailability.
Common Criticisms:
-But... EvE/Dust/CCP's all about living with your consequences?
Yes, but it is no consequence of yours that you pursued a career that was not fully developed in a game that centers around four dynamically different combat philosophies and classes. All these racial variant weapons and vehicles should have been out at the start, and all this reallocation does is turn back the SP clock to 00:00 and allows you to choose a path that should have been available to you at the start. If you decide you don't like it, tough luck, it's just as if you pursued it in the first place.
-What if it's still FotM?
As I said before, this turns back the SP clock to 00:00, so if it's OP now, it would have been OP then and people would skill into it regardless because of its obvious advantages. However, just as it would be fixed in the beginning of development, it will get fixed (I detest the term "nerf") and there will be balance to the galaxy, leaving those who pursued it because it was FotM to live with their decisions.
-When EvE gets new content, they don't get respecs.
True, but they get new content across the racial board. In Dust, we have 3, 2, heck, even 1 race to choose from per given career. How's would it be fair if, given the four-way balance touted by EvE, only Amarr got dreadnoughts and higher ships, or only Caldari received effective repairing craft?
-LOL HTFU NEWB NOAUGH REESPECHESTSZZ
You have no credibility if you cannot form concise, thoughtful points and counter-points without spouting buzzwords or other trivial, nonsensical phrases. At least attempt to see my point of view without unthinkingly discarding it. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle. Please prove me wrong. Convince me.
My Criticisms:
Just some things I find difficult with this approach:
-What about equipment or other non-obvious racial variations (such as mass drivers, shotguns, etc)?
Haven't really looked into this one much. This really only pertains to dropsuits and vehicles because of their obvious equivalency among the racial variants, also to the infantry rifle series in light weapons, though there are also some difficulties there.
-Implementation?
This is a big issue. I have no idea how CCP will be able to timely and efficiently manage all the players asking for reallocations. I'm not very tech savvy so I have no ideas of the technical requirements and limitations, but hopefully this post can spark some interest. I imagine that CCP could just have everyone interested put in a ticket and go from there, but who knows.
-Crossing from an armour tank to shield tank?
This goes back to the first point. Will someone who specced into Caldari and shields be able to switch to Amarr and armour skills? The skills for defenses don't mesh up very well, so I'm having trouble seeing how that will work, if at all. So I'd imagine one would just have to HTFU and grind, but that grind would still be easier than both defenses and what ever just came out.
Closing
This game isn't finished yet. Yes, this game will continue to evolve through the years (hopefully!), but the things I'm asking to spec into should have been in the beginning. Imagine EvE not giving Amarr or Minmatar any ships higher than a cruiser at release! This idea for skill allocation is fair in that it forces the player to live with the career choices s/he has made, but allows him/her to pursue the racial variant that should have been available from the start.
Thanks for reading.
-Vulpes |
Vulpes Dolosus
Neanderthal Nation
Public Disorder.
108
|
Posted - 2013.10.16 14:57:00 -
[2] - Quote
Takron Nistrom wrote:Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
I would love a respec, they're easy and it makes it so I can waste points to fix it later. If a new suit is coming out, save your points.-áEasy. When new content in Eve comes out, they don't offer respecs. Deal with ur choices and move on.
I regret them giving the last respec, because now every whiner thinks they are entitled to one every time something comes out that they like better.
Did you even read the post?
This is not a respec. It's a chance to put skills you have from one skill that fitted your career choice into a similar skill that should have been available from the start. There's no "bad planning," because there was no planning to be done (unless you assert that people should just save their all skill points in the hopes of filler content coming SOON^tm).
You can't switch classes, only races (so an assault is still an assault, tanker is still a tanker, etc) and only applies to new content (so when the Amarr tank comes out, a Caldari tank swhich to Gallente). This also won't apply to new unique content (such as fighters, MAVs, etc.), only to racial variants that are filling spots that should have been filled from the beginning. |