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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:A.) CCP flipped the glitch making Gallante/Minmatar dominate, to Amarr/Minmatar.
B.) The event that gave scrappy rewards to the Gallante (proto scout suits? -_-) and awesome awards for Caldari/Amarr (Assault suits :D)
C.) People want easy games so they are hanging on to the coat tails of EoN and just trailing off their sucess. Amarr/Caldari FW is so easy mode because everybody has at least advanced. These noobs in Gallante are fresh off the boat.
Okay even if that is true, which by all a accounts it could be. Why the hell should the MInnies/ Gallente get its benefits for a month they demand it be fixed when Amarr Caldari get it?
A.)They've suffered with it for less than a week, they have no right to complain, though I am more in the camp that the mechanics are bugged so that its insanely hard to get out of the ditch and easy to force others into it.
B.) You will have wasted more resources in completing the event than you will be getting for participating in it. Makes no sense to blame that when rewards aren't even very good.
C.) How is it easy mode? Our players are the most under repped faction. We've been fighting with EoN for almost a month now. Its not the event. Its poorly organized, whiny players looking for a scapegoat. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3167
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:57:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Either way, thats not the point. The point is that no matter what side, the fact that any faction is the FOTM is good.
Yes it is. It destabilizes the warzone and prevents stagnation.
Either pushing one side to victory of pulling one from ashes of defeat. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:04:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:No, this is not any kind of gloating or the like. This is a legitimate discussion. Consider this, previous FOTM have been OP weapons or suits that favored some players over others. The recent spike in FW is not like that. No matter what side you favor, what could be better for the game than everyone really getting in to their race and the rivalries inherent to New Eden? The interest in representing your faction and the passion that it has fueled can do nothing but improve the experience overall. Its just MORE FUN! Whether you are for Gal/Min or Amarr/Caldari, it's cool (well, maybe not, actually your soul needs to be cleansed by the light of my LR, lol), just go for it! That's the promise of this game. I played like a bizzilion games and i got no rewards!!  (p.s. You can say what you want about EoN, following the crowd, but trust me, I got into plenty of amarr FW games with randoms that I got spanked.)
You will tomorrow I think, that or next Wednesday. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3169
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:52:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:Atleast duct tape will never be OP. Or will it? 
Well who knows. Does it deflect laser beams? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3169
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Posted - 2013.10.16 03:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:A.) CCP flipped the glitch making Gallante/Minmatar dominate, to Amarr/Minmatar.
B.) The event that gave scrappy rewards to the Gallante (proto scout suits? -_-) and awesome awards for Caldari/Amarr (Assault suits :D)
C.) People want easy games so they are hanging on to the coat tails of EoN and just trailing off their sucess. Amarr/Caldari FW is so easy mode because everybody has at least advanced. These noobs in Gallante are fresh off the boat. Okay even if that is true, which by all a accounts it could be. Why the hell should the MInnies/ Gallente get its benefits for a month they demand it be fixed when Amarr Caldari get it? A.)They've suffered with it for less than a week, they have no right to complain, though I am more in the camp that the mechanics are bugged so that its insanely hard to get out of the ditch and easy to force others into it. B.) You will have wasted more resources in completing the event than you will be getting for participating in it. Makes no sense to blame that when rewards aren't even very good. C.) How is it easy mode? Our players are the most under repped faction. We've been fighting with EoN for almost a month now. Its not the event. Its poorly organized, whiny players looking for a scapegoat. A.) CCP should have fixed the system not just play the "your turn to get it in the back" card. B.) Really on benefits people who would have fought in FW anyways. Might as well get cool crap instead of useless junk. C.) Amarr/Caldari are over saturated with veteran players. So you are way more likely to be matched in with other squads of proto's and advanced suits, just out of random chance. Also, people that realized that Gallante/Minmatar are not easy mode anymore have migrated over to the winning side. Therefore, there are even more vets on the winning side. I'm not blaming EoN, or Caldari/Minmatar supporters. I'm blaming CCP and their "quick" fixes, that do nothing more than add further bull ****. Believe it or not, I actually use to play only Amarrian and Caldari because I felt cheap abusing the system.
C= not our concern. Why cheapen our victory because we are good players? Why cheapen it because we organised ourselves to get constant squads running to break through the suppression of the system in place?
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3170
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Posted - 2013.10.16 04:19:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:A.) CCP flipped the glitch making Gallante/Minmatar dominate, to Amarr/Minmatar.
B.) The event that gave scrappy rewards to the Gallante (proto scout suits? -_-) and awesome awards for Caldari/Amarr (Assault suits :D)
C.) People want easy games so they are hanging on to the coat tails of EoN and just trailing off their sucess. Amarr/Caldari FW is so easy mode because everybody has at least advanced. These noobs in Gallante are fresh off the boat. Okay even if that is true, which by all a accounts it could be. Why the hell should the MInnies/ Gallente get its benefits for a month they demand it be fixed when Amarr Caldari get it? A.)They've suffered with it for less than a week, they have no right to complain, though I am more in the camp that the mechanics are bugged so that its insanely hard to get out of the ditch and easy to force others into it. B.) You will have wasted more resources in completing the event than you will be getting for participating in it. Makes no sense to blame that when rewards aren't even very good. C.) How is it easy mode? Our players are the most under repped faction. We've been fighting with EoN for almost a month now. Its not the event. Its poorly organized, whiny players looking for a scapegoat. A.) CCP should have fixed the system not just play the "your turn to get it in the back" card. B.) Really on benefits people who would have fought in FW anyways. Might as well get cool crap instead of useless junk. C.) Amarr/Caldari are over saturated with veteran players. So you are way more likely to be matched in with other squads of proto's and advanced suits, just out of random chance. Also, people that realized that Gallante/Minmatar are not easy mode anymore have migrated over to the winning side. Therefore, there are even more vets on the winning side. I'm not blaming EoN, or Caldari/Minmatar supporters. I'm blaming CCP and their "quick" fixes, that do nothing more than add further bull ****. Believe it or not, I actually use to play only Amarrian and Caldari because I felt cheap abusing the system. C= not our concern. Why cheapen our victory because we are good players? Why cheapen it because we organised ourselves to get constant squads running to break through the suppression of the system in place? It was cheap back when Gallante/Minmatar were doing it and its cheap now. Said it then, saying it now. Reason I never hyped us up (asides from the occasional role playing to screw with people in the RP threads when Caldari/Amarrian were stroking egos ;) ). Also, are you saying that you guys just miraculously changed your tactics the same time the glitch was reversed and that the glitch in no way helped you out? I always said FW was crap. Didn't defend my own and I'm not going to defend you guys.
Your opinion.
Where is this glitch you, and both suspect. Either way PIE GD has been a growing channel for Amarr FW for over a month, only last week and the week before did it really take off allowing us to get 4-6 squads running across the American TZ winning all of their matches. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3175
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:00:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:I'm waiting to see where loyalties are when the event is over. If PIE et. Al. can field the same numbers week after week then I will tip my hat to them and agree the Militia and Federation need to (further) organise themselves (which we have been doing by the way!).
If I'm right, the event will end and the "hired guns" and fake support will disappear leaving the Amarr out gunned. We can then see if the mechanics are "fixed" and the systems can be flipped back.
At present, the event, IMO, is skewing the landscape both in terms of numbers and those that are loyal FW players.
Well considering science for death is mainly gallente FW so Im told why don't you stick to your own FW zone and stop carrying the Minmatar and let them fight for themselves if you are so concerned about loyalty and faction support.
I'm neither particularly happy about either
A.) The next month of boring same ass **** Amarr dominance of their FW zone.
B.) The next months of boring same ass **** Gallente dominance of both the FW zones. |
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