After i had some fun runs on BF4 ive noticed similar gameplay (dont come with the "BF" is a realistic shooter BS). Well lets get started in how both games are similar:

-Vehicles
Dropships vs helicopters:
at the moment we have dropships that act like the transport choppers from BF but with the difference that our passangers are 100% useless. on BF you can use repair tools and ALL weapons in the game while beeing in a helicopter. Additionally pilots get points for spawns on their vehicles and whenever some 1 does get a kill they get assist points for it. hell you can even deploy all sorts of equipment on a helicopter. Like ammo boxes attached to it. The turrets are allways lethal against infantry. And in my opinion there should be a HMG variant for dropships with longer range. Another thing is aireal vehicles have flares to counter stingers. Im sure we could get something similar for swarms

message to CCP: allow all weapons and equipments on dropships and give pilots points for SPAWNS on their vehicle. And swarm launcher countermeasures.

HAV's vs Tanks:
On battlefield they can take a couple of hits and deal alot of damage. However the dust variant is insanely OP compared directly to it. THis gets flipped upside down when you have a engineer repairing your tank where the BF tank is then stronger. And they have aswell IR flares to stop lock on with something like a javeline.

message to CPP: introduce shield rechargers/repair tools which are specific boosted for vehicles. Swarm launcher countermeasures please aswell.


Spawn mechanics:
on battlefield you can spawn on squadmembers and objectives so i think it would be nice to see if we get a module which works like a mobile drop uplink (proto modules should not be better then uplinks!but should take less CPU/PG) This would give scouts a very tactical advantage. Like he is speed fit and your squad waits till he arrived the objective and then every 1 spawns on him.

message to CCP: give us a option to spawn on squad/team members.

Gameplay:
BF has conquest and dust has skirmish. Lets face it those are the main gamemodes in their game. On battlefield 4 the ticket counter goes down when you have less objectives taken then the enemy. Example: there are 3 objectives and if you hold 2 out of 3 then only the enemy tickets go down. Not yours. I would like to see a adaptation to skirmish. Have more 51% of the battlefield under your controll and only the hostile MCC will take damage. Lore wise you could say that a MCC can tank incoming damage fine as long only 1 out of 3 nullcanons are shoting it (or 2 out of 5). This would mean that the enemy team can allways counter attack and still win. Oh and get rid of the MCC vs MCC damage. And lets be honest when your MCC has like 60% armor remaining and the enemy still has 50% of their shields the match is lost and you allready gave up.

message to CCP: make skirmish a game mode where you even can loose if you screw up after dominating the enemy team.

Tanks are more vulnerable but they are also far more manoeuvrable

the balance in bf4 is that the rockets you have to reload after you shoot and the tanks are actually fast enough to leave the firefight and they have huge stomping power which makes them sustainable, you just have to be smart with your tank.

BF is not a realistic shooter.

no... you got it somewhat wrong...


Dust514 wants to be Dust514, but the community wants it to either be call of duty (those that openly express their hatred of anything that makes them think), or battlefield (those that want vehicles to work like social assets and not like personal assets).

theres a very small vocal group of us that wants this to be dust 514 but nobody listens to us.

make skirmish in a way where you can lose even if you are being dominated?? Guys want more free ****...unbelievable the charity this community asks for.

Btw, there is a way....ifthe other team is cloning you down, you can grab points and win by damage. You shouldnt be able to win if you cant win.

But this game sucks at trying to be something new. Obviously, something is working in those other games. Just like EVE, CCP's methodology appeals to only a select few and stays in its little nicheGǪ a conversation piece respected for its spirit and vision but poor in its operation. Ten years made it a decent game.

DUST was supposed to be a connection to EVE mechanics, not a game in its own right. Since CCP decided to go down a different, more conventional road though it's time to get even more conventional and move on to the EVE connection.

Make DUST like the other games and it will be fun according to anyone who's played those. You can't argue with success.

The final straw will be if CCP drops the ball on vehicle rebalance. It'll be pretty clear by then that their "vision" and their ability to develop are two different things.

This thing needs to work now, not in ten years.

I personally want Dust 514 to... well... stop listening to the goddamn community. Not to sound like an ass, but they should really shun us. We've cried, and cried, and cried for them to listen to us. Look at what happened. Look at where we are. It's ironic for me to say "not to listen" and put this here, I know, but the game's basics should be placed in before balance is made repeatedly.

no... you got it somewhat wrong...


Dust514 wants to be Dust514, but the community wants it to either be call of duty (those that openly express their hatred of anything that makes them think), or battlefield (those that want vehicles to work like social assets and not like personal assets).

theres a very small vocal group of us that wants this to be dust 514 but nobody listens to us.

Yeah, tanks should be unable to move after taking 50% damage to armour and it should also be possible to destroy a tank with a single RE