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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:53:00 -
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As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
699
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:54:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses .
yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:56:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right?
Yeah, that is how it works ... |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
699
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:11:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right? Yeah, that is how it works ...
actually that is how it works. I can easily renew my dhcp lease in a 3G network and get a new IP
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
312
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:13:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses .
Very few people have static IP addresses. Even if they did, I can guarantee many will share that IP via NAT.
While I understand what you are saying, you lack of understanding is apparent.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:15:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right? Yeah, that is how it works ... actually that is how it works. I can easily renew my dhcp lease in a 3G network and get a new IP
Do you ever heard about devices unique id's ? |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
312
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right? Yeah, that is how it works ... actually that is how it works. I can easily renew my dhcp lease in a 3G network and get a new IP Do you ever heard about devices unique id's ?
Please stop. If you are talking about MAC addresses, these are not available to web browsers. Even so, you can spoof pretty much everything the browser sends in headers etc.
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General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3570
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:20:00 -
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this thread... lol
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
701
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:25:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:As far as people is allow to make endless accounts with 3 ALT's in each account, we never going to get an accurate picture of what the Community "really" wants.
Do things properly CCP, and link accounts to IP addresses . yeah because you just cant login no a mobile device with variable IP adress, right? Yeah, that is how it works ... actually that is how it works. I can easily renew my dhcp lease in a 3G network and get a new IP Do you ever heard about devices unique id's ?
the so called unique IDs can be changed it even changes by itself if on factory resets...
beside that, as Rogue Saint explained nicely to you, everything can be faked. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:27:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:[
Do you ever heard about devices unique id's ? the so "unique" IDs can be changed it even changes by itself if on factory resets... beside that, as Rogue Saint explained nicely to you, everything can be faked.
Sure it can be faked, but not easily ....which is my point .... what is wrong with you guys ? not enough coffee ? |
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General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3572
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:29:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:stop, you make me laugh.. your "internet wisdom" is too amusing  the so "unique" IDs can be changed it even changes by itself on factory resets... beside that, as Rogue Saint explained nicely to you, everything can be faked.
General John Ripper confirmed and approved.
I am officially putting an end to this discussion as I have chosen the winners.
Congratulations Jack Mcmuffin and Rogue Saint, you guys won a lifetime supply of tacos. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
701
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:30:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:[
Do you ever heard about devices unique id's ? the so "unique" IDs can be changed it even changes by itself if on factory resets... beside that, as Rogue Saint explained nicely to you, everything can be faked. Sure it can be faked, but not easily ....which is my point .... what is wrong with you guys ? not enough coffee ?
not easily? it just takes a few shell commands
or you simply download an app for it that does it for you which takes 5 seconds to find
General John Ripper wrote:Jack McReady wrote:stop, you make me laugh.. your "internet wisdom" is too amusing the so "unique" IDs can be changed it even changes by itself on factory resets... beside that, as Rogue Saint explained nicely to you, everything can be faked. General John Ripper confirmed and approved. I am officially putting an end to this discussion as I have chosen the winners. Congratulations Jack Mcmuffin and Rogue Saint, you guys won a lifetime supply of tacos.
awesome, time for taco feast  Banning Hammers tears will add some spice to it |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:35:00 -
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Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point......
SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3572
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:37:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!?
and a few gamers will spend their entire life pretending to be 3 separate people on forums to help push their ideas onto ccp.... |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
701
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:37:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!?
I see, a few seconds to renew IP and change ID is an entire life...
that logic |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:39:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? and a few gamers will spend their entire life pretending to be 3 separate people on forums to help push their ideas onto ccp..... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!?
It takes two seconds to make a hotmail account, and a monkey can make one, is not exactly hard..... |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3573
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:44:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? and a few gamers will spend their entire life pretending to be 3 separate people on forums to help push their ideas onto ccp..... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? I takes two seconds to make a hotmail account, and a monkey can make one, is not exactly hard.....
I never said it was hard. What I ment was that its such a pointless task. All people will do is just waste their time. You think its absurd that a few "geeks" will waste their time faking their info....
Well I was making fun of you by saying its also absurd for gamers to create an army of alts and just talk to themselves to support an idea they have.
Since I had to spell it out for you... Nvm I will stop here. Just too easy. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3573
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:47:00 -
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Oh and if you want to talk about level of difficulty...
PSN account forum spammers - info fakers
hours talking to themselves on forums to push ideas - 5 seconds to fake info.
Both are relatively easy to do but one of them is such a big waste of time.
Logic wins. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1797
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:47:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Right... so few geeks will spend their entire life faking IP's and ID's... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? and a few gamers will spend their entire life pretending to be 3 separate people on forums to help push their ideas onto ccp..... i see you point...... SERIOUSLY !?!?!!? I takes two seconds to make a hotmail account, and a monkey can make one, is not exactly hard..... I never said it was hard. What I ment was that its such a pointless task. All people will do is just waste their time. You think its absurd that a few "geeks" will waste their time faking their info.... Well I was making fun of you by saying its also absurd for gamers to create an army of alts and just talk to themselves to support an idea they have. Since I had to spell it out for you... Nvm I will stop here. Just too easy.
"An army of ALT's" ...you just said... maybe you not as smart as you think. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3573
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:53:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
"An army of ALT's" ...you just said... maybe you not as smart as you think.
So you are just nitpicking now because you lost? Lose with dignity. Just stop posting. |
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Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
456
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:55:00 -
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if we did not have alt accounts the forums would be worse off for the scrubbishness exhibited here..as ccp has a habit of banning people who post sound logical arguments about they're ruined game..most of the forum warrior vets would be gone..could you imagine the things these bluedots would propose to ccp constantly without bitter veteran feedback..
shudder ccp would not be able to decipher any solid ideas through all the **** if they're was even one to be had lol |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
315
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:55:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Just stop posting.
QFT
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1798
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:56:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
"An army of ALT's" ...you just said... maybe you not as smart as you think.
So you are just nitpicking now because you lost? Lose with dignity. Just stop posting.
I lost what ? this wasn't an argument to start with. A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4 |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1110
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:57:00 -
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You would have to be seriously addicted to dust to keep making new alts, on newly generated PS accounts just for the extra blokes.
There are only 24 hours in a day!
I have one alt account than thats a labour just logging in to it. I hardly ever use it. Its like making another account in eve except the skills are limited to combat only, what would be the point. There are no research alts, no need for scouts or buyers or market alts. All you do is shoot people in the face.
Alt making is almost pointless and above making an extra one or two accounts, its hardly worth the time and effort. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
319
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:01:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4
You are being silly now, and if you are right I wouldn't trust that forum or the code to negate your paradigm. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1798
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:05:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4 You are being silly now, and if you are right I wouldn't trust that forum or the code to negate your paradigm.
Do you guys ever go outside the EvE universe ? Accounts are normally link to IP's to stop forum spamming, and it's lots of Spam going on in this forums.... |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1798
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:08:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4 You are being silly now, and if you are right I wouldn't trust that forum or the code to negate your paradigm. Do you guys ever go outside the EvE universe ? Accounts are normally link to IP's to stop forum spamming, and it's lots of Spam going on in this forums....
We even have a rule for it ... which is totally pointless....
12. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to *insert other game name*GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
320
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:10:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4 You are being silly now, and if you are right I wouldn't trust that forum or the code to negate your paradigm. Do you guys ever go outside the EvE universe ? Accounts are normally link to IP's to stop forum spamming, and it's lots of Spam going on in this forums.... We even have a rule for it ... which is totally pointless.... 12. Spamming is prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to *insert other game name*GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post
Which has nothing to do with what you're trying to stop.
EDIT: **** this, why am I even bothering with this stupid thread. You're an idiot, you're knowledge of forum security is laughable. You win, I can't lower my intelligence level to reason with you, I'm out. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1798
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:12:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:A lot of forums uses IP linked accounts to prevent exactly this. You trying to tell me that 1+1 = 4 You are being silly now, and if you are right I wouldn't trust that forum or the code to negate your paradigm. Do you guys ever go outside the EvE universe ? Accounts are normally link to IP's to stop forum spamming, and it's lots of Spam going on in this forums.... We even have a rule for it ... which is totally pointless.... 12. Spamming is prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to *insert other game name*GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post Which has nothing to do with what you're trying to stop.
People Spamming the Forums with about 20 ALT's, have "nothing" to do with it ? |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
320
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:14:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:People Spamming the Forums with about 20 ALT's, have "nothing" to do with it ?
Rogue Saint wrote:**** this, why am I even bothering with this stupid thread. You're an idiot, you're knowledge of forum security is laughable. You win, I can't lower my intelligence level to reason with you, I'm out. |
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