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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.15 05:58:00 -
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Viziam laser? worthLESS!
BASIC laser? worthMORE!
Viziam 17 per bullet.
BASIC laser 17 per bullet.
Its PATHETIC when a basic weapon is as good as it gets.
The basic laser is the best laser weapon in these areas:
Lowest feedback damage.
Lowest ISK cost.
Lowest CPU fitting cost.
Lowest PG cost.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1478
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:02:00 -
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But longer time to overheat = more damage on these weapons. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
4193
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:02:00 -
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So don't use the proto.
I just blew my own mind. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
1452
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:05:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:But longer time to overheat = more damage on these weapons.
qft... max damage is greater and you'll have a greater window in which to omfgwtfpwnOHKO anything that moves toward the end of your cycle. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
858
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:06:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:So don't use the proto.
I just blew my own mind.
Exactly!!
If the Exile, GEK and Duvolle all did 34 per bullet then guess what AR is going to be used??
The BASIC. |
dustwaffle
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
597
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:07:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:So don't use the proto.
I just blew my own mind. Exactly!! If the Exile, GEK and Duvolle all did 34 per bullet and had increasing ROF at higher levels then guess what AR is going to be used?? The Duvolle.
FYP
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3899
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:09:00 -
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Have you actually used a Viziam? |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
858
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:11:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:But longer time to overheat = more damage on these weapons. qft... max damage is greater and you'll have a greater window in which to omfgwtfpwnOHKO anything that moves toward the end of your cycle.
I did a test the other day:
I had basic laser, basic suit and a longtime closed beta tester on the enemy team killed me with a Viziam ,proto suit
Test 1 to check time to die so I died to a Viziam user...k .
Respawn and this time lets go mano a mano.
I killed the Viziam, proto suit user.
Was it my "skills"?
Hell no!!
The insane feedback damage on the Viziam did the other guy in...lol.
I just triggered my basic laser at the right time...lol.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
858
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Have you actually used a Viziam?
Yes.
I love it when newberries ask questions like this.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1478
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:24:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:But longer time to overheat = more damage on these weapons. qft... max damage is greater and you'll have a greater window in which to omfgwtfpwnOHKO anything that moves toward the end of your cycle. I did a test the other day: I had basic laser, basic suit and a longtime closed beta tester on the enemy team killed me with a Viziam ,proto suit Test 1 to check time to die so I died to a Viziam user...k . Respawn and this time lets go mano a mano. I killed the Viziam, proto suit user. Was it my "skills"? Hell no!! The insane feedback damage on the Viziam did the other guy in...lol. I just triggered my basic laser at the right time...lol.
And this is exactly how tiers should work. Higher damage BUT higher penalties, which means a player needs MORE SKILL to use the Viziam effectively than the basic, BUT if you're skilled with LRs then the Viziam will definitely be more powerful! The operation skill makes heat cooldown faster. The LR is all about heat management, and a pro will know when to stop firing, and hence can use the Viziam to great effectiveness, nullifying drawbacks with practice.
This is the fundamental premise of tiercide, too, and the fundamental reason why the AR is such a mainstream weapon that it's FOTGame for every FPS. As you progress in tiers the AR does not have increasing drawbacks that you have to compensate with player skill.
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