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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:15:00 -
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Its getting stupid at the moment with all the grenade spam be it from vets or just the n00b who throws all 3 grenades in a row in a general direction. Given how powerfull grenades are they should be limited to 1 and not 3 as it is at the moment. AV grenades and flux should be reduced to 2. 2 because you need at least 2 to take out a cheap LAV and 2 because flux grenades are not lethal. I dont know any other shoter where you have more then 1 grenade at once. If you support a skill based game then support this idea. Just look around and see that every n00b and their mother is throwing m1 or core locus grenades. |
PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
73
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:17:00 -
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Pfff |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3011
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:18:00 -
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Agreed. And no grenade regen from Nanohives. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
358
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Agreed. And no grenade regen from Nanohives. Took the words right out my mouth. |
Bleeding Knight
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
38
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Agreed. And no grenade regen from Nanohives.
Most FPS games I've played have this. Though if they do this they should the Contact grenade an extra count. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:26:00 -
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who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:28:00 -
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Take my grenades but spam I shall! |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1423
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:36:00 -
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Stop complaining about dying to things specifically made to kill you. |
richiesutie 2
The Rainbow Effect
359
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:36:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3020
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:37:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover.
Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me. |
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:39:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover. Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me.
im not i get tired of people complaining about crap like this if you want to fix a problem kill the person dont **** and moan about it on the forums just because you die by grenades |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4046
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:42:00 -
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When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets.
They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are.
Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can.
Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1172
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Agreed. And no grenade regen from Nanohives. Yup. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4046
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:44:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover. Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me. im not i get tired of people complaining about crap like this if you want to fix a problem kill the person dont **** and moan about it on the forums just because you die by grenades
lol obviously a nade spammer.
I'm getting this "you're a scrub for wanting my crutch nerfed" vibe from him.
I'm curious, did you also find the tact. rifle ok? Was the flaylock pistol ok too? How about the Caldari Logi suit? I guess that suit was PERFECT...just like the problem with nades |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:45:00 -
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then tanks and other things like that need an ammo limit then based on people's reasoning in the post |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1172
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:46:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) I don't exactly know what the question is on the last line, so I'll name every game that has 3 or more Nades in ones pocket at the same time.
COD Halo KZ DUST BF
That's all I can recall of the bat. |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
846
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:47:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3022
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:48:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover. Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me. im not i get tired of people complaining about crap like this if you want to fix a problem kill the person dont **** and moan about it on the forums just because you die by grenades
Its not about killing them, its about sections of the map that are subject to and ruined in terms of game play by people who spam grenades in a never ending cycle. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
6
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:48:00 -
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then mass drivers should not get to get ammo from nanohives because they are basically grenades too |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:49:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers.
too bad i do not use proto grenades , this coming from a guy whos corp left eon after a massive attack was started against them |
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IrishWebster
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:49:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Its getting stupid at the moment with all the grenade spam be it from vets or just the n00b who throws all 3 grenades in a row in a general direction. Given how powerfull grenades are they should be limited to 1 and not 3 as it is at the moment. AV grenades and flux should be reduced to 2. 2 because you need at least 2 to take out a cheap LAV and 2 because flux grenades are not lethal. I dont know any other shoter where you have more then 1 grenade at once. If you support a skill based game then support this idea. Just look around and see that every n00b and their mother is throwing m1 or core locus grenades.
Halo. Pretty decent game. Kinda big. You may have heard of it. You can have a veritable friggin virtual SATCHEL of grenades in Halo. CoD as well. You're... badly misinformed. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3025
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:49:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) I don't exactly know what the question is on the last line, so I'll name every game that has 3 or more Nades in ones pocket at the same time. COD Halo KZ DUST BF That's all I can recall of the bat. You invalidated your point when you included dust as a self respecting shooter. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1425
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:51:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:54:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising.
and no one in true blood or outer heaven use anything op you guys just run around in basic gear. its funny how you hate on the players who probably own you i.e. milkman and i think the guys from true blood is mad because he just lost a district to ae again |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4048
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:59:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) I don't exactly know what the question is on the last line, so I'll name every game that has 3 or more Nades in ones pocket at the same time. COD Halo KZ DUST BF That's all I can recall of the bat.
Up until the last CoD I played, BO1 it had 2 nade slots. CoD 4 had a perk for 3, and even they realized it was spammed and took that perk out. I saw the pick 10 system in BO2, and didn't notice 3 nade slots.
Don't know about HALO, but from what I see, that game is actually about gun game.
KZ is 3, but they don't magically regen cuz you sat on a glowing bubble.
BF is 2 grenades. I don't know what BF you've been playing.
You mention DUST among games that are legendary... smh. |
IrishWebster
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover. Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me.
... allow me to recant your position, so as to make sure that I entirely understand. You're saying that it's believable that there could exist, in this world, microscopic "nano" machines powerful enough to create, FROM NOTHING, not only normal, solid rounds, but rounds made out of superheated and possibly radioactive plasma... but NOT a simple, compact, high yield anti-personnel explosive?
Nevermind how the bloody CRU's work. Holy mother of God, those must be outside your realm of willing suspension of disbelief.
In all fairness though, it is a sort of damning game mechanic. I say leave the grenade counts alone, but I think I'd support only one round of reloads from any one nanohive. As in, one full refill of grenades and ammunition, instead of a continuous "until the hives run out" resupply. The same goes for ammo resupply depots. I'd also like to see a cool down time after switching fits at an RD, to stop people from abusing the ability to swap out for a suit with full HP and ammo in the middle of a firefight.
Just my two cents. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1426
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Posted - 2013.10.14 23:59:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising. and no one in true blood or outer heaven use anything op you guys just run around in basic gear. its funny how you hate on the players who probably own you i.e. milkman Not hating on anyone, don't have the drive or energy for it, just posting observations your corp along with dust university are both notorious for using op gear.
As for Sver using it, perhaps, using full on fits of bs gear though is something I rarely see in my kin and do not aprove of in any way. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1763
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:01:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Its getting stupid at the moment with all the grenade spam be it from vets or just the n00b who throws all 3 grenades in a row in a general direction. Given how powerfull grenades are they should be limited to 1 and not 3 as it is at the moment. AV grenades and flux should be reduced to 2. 2 because you need at least 2 to take out a cheap LAV and 2 because flux grenades are not lethal. I dont know any other shoter where you have more then 1 grenade at once. If you support a skill based game then support this idea. Just look around and see that every n00b and their mother is throwing m1 or core locus grenades.
The problem with people talking about OP and NOT op is that they take it always TOO far. As it is. I can survive STD grenades with my STD suits, ADV grenades with ; a STD suit, and PROTO grenades with my ADV suit or higher.
In order to BALANCE (not nerf) Grenades what needs to be done is:
GÖª Locus x2 But takes x2 nanites from nanohives. Cant be ressuplied in Supply depos GÖª Flux x3 , can be ressuplied everywhere.Same as now. GÖª AV x2, Only at SUPPLY DEPOS. (no nanohive+AV nade spam anymore,if you want to take on a vehicle,spec into AV) GÖª Contact X1, Can be ressuplied everywhere, X2 nanite consumption on nanohives to reduce spam
This way grenades would be balanced and STILL useful.IMO...
My 0.02 ISK |
Funkmaster Whale
0uter.Heaven
849
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:03:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising. and no one in true blood or outer heaven use anything op you guys just run around in basic gear. its funny how you hate on the players who probably own you i.e. milkman and i think the guys from true blood is mad because he just lost a district to ae again So you go from defending grenade spam to insulting corps as a means of making your point?
Just another troll, guys. There's no sense in arguing with this guy. To do so would mean stooping down to his level, at which point he will simply beat you with experience. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:03:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising. and no one in true blood or outer heaven use anything op you guys just run around in basic gear. its funny how you hate on the players who probably own you i.e. milkman Not hating on anyone, don't have the drive or energy for it, just posting observations your corp along with dust university are both notorious for using op gear. As for Sver using it, perhaps, using full on fits of bs gear though is something I rarely see in my kin and do not aprove of in any way.
i have seen plenty of true bloods using proto gear in pub matches (xdestruction and senator snips) to name a few
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:05:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Says the guy from Nyain San, DUST's most reputable Core Locus spammers. They use every op tactic, fit, and weapon they can find so not surprising. and no one in true blood or outer heaven use anything op you guys just run around in basic gear. its funny how you hate on the players who probably own you i.e. milkman and i think the guys from true blood is mad because he just lost a district to ae again So you go from defending grenade spam to insulting corps as a means of making your point? Just another troll, guys. There's no sense in arguing with this guy. To do so would mean stooping down to his level, at which point he will simply beat you with experience.
you started the insulting first, its funny how you go after a corp were the majority of the people cant speak english talk about a troll |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1426
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:06:00 -
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Should they not be?
I use proto scout frequently if you need more ammo. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1178
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:07:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) I don't exactly know what the question is on the last line, so I'll name every game that has 3 or more Nades in ones pocket at the same time. COD Halo KZ DUST BF That's all I can recall of the bat. Up until the last CoD I played, BO1 it had 2 nade slots. CoD 4 had a perk for 3, and even they realized it was spammed and took that perk out. I saw the pick 10 system in BO2, and didn't notice 3 nade slots. Don't know about HALO, but from what I see, that game is actually about gun game. KZ is 3, but they don't magically regen cuz you sat on a glowing bubble. BF is 2 grenades. I don't know what BF you've been playing. You mention DUST among games that are legendary... smh. Plus or minus one?
I mean, really.
Halo has 4. Of all the grenades. So, 4 and 4.
I haven't played CoD in a while, But I remember it was a fair number.
BF, I also haven't played in a while, But I remember a similar number of Grenades.
I'm sure ONE grenade doesn't invalidate my point, that grenade Spam is a issue with basically all Modern Shooters.
I'm not saying grenades shouldn't be nerfed, I was just answering the question.
And, you didn't ask for Legendary.
You asked for a self-respecting shooter. And DUST is a shooter, is it not?
smh. Don't be so negative. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:07:00 -
[34] - Quote
i dont care what people run just people complaining about people in my corp running gear makes not sense when other corps do the exact same thing |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
749
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:07:00 -
[35] - Quote
Bright Cloud wrote:Its getting stupid at the moment with all the grenade spam be it from vets or just the n00b who throws all 3 grenades in a row in a general direction. Given how powerfull grenades are they should be limited to 1 and not 3 as it is at the moment. AV grenades and flux should be reduced to 2. 2 because you need at least 2 to take out a cheap LAV and 2 because flux grenades are not lethal. I dont know any other shoter where you have more then 1 grenade at once. If you support a skill based game then support this idea. Just look around and see that every n00b and their mother is throwing m1 or core locus grenades. Just for saying that, I will now go out of my way to only kill people with grenades |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3034
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:08:00 -
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IrishWebster wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Its about logical progression of technology. I could understand them making bullets from Nano Machines, or Blaster rounds which get sheathed in plasma, but not grenades. They should be tactical and powerful tools for dislodging enemies from cover. Sorry mat buy you sound like a grenade spammer to me. ... allow me to recant your position, so as to make sure that I entirely understand. You're saying that it's believable that there could exist, in this world, microscopic "nano" machines powerful enough to create, FROM NOTHING, not only normal, solid rounds, but rounds made out of superheated and possibly radioactive plasma... but NOT a simple, compact, high yield anti-personnel explosive? Nevermind how the bloody CRU's work. Holy mother of God, those must be outside your realm of willing suspension of disbelief. In all fairness though, it is a sort of damning game mechanic. I say leave the grenade counts alone, but I think I'd support only one round of reloads from any one nanohive. As in, one full refill of grenades and ammunition, instead of a continuous "until the hives run out" resupply. The same goes for ammo resupply depots. I'd also like to see a cool down time after switching fits at an RD, to stop people from abusing the ability to swap out for a suit with full HP and ammo in the middle of a firefight. Just my two cents. I believe that a Nano hive could, produce small simple slugs for fire arms, slugs for blasters which I assume the plasma sheathing takes place within the fire arm itself, rather than in the magazine.
I do no however believe Nano machine can create the complexities of whatever mechanisms, compounds, alloys, etc that compose the grenades, especially the replication of the programming of the guidance systems of the AV, and the electrostatic bursts of the flux.
I would suspend my belief that they produce simple and solid forms of mass of produce the required energy to charge magazines of laser tech.
I however cannot refute that Swarm Launchers are able to be restocked, though I do not understand how that is possible. I would say removed the guided missiles too, but that is only my personal stance since I hate swarms. |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
123
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:09:00 -
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No, increase max carried grenades for heavies, i want to flux myself, you and everyone else. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1766
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:09:00 -
[38] - Quote
nobody even read what i wrot? why do i even care anymore...lol |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1427
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
We are immortal anyway why are you so concerned about getting killed, we just jump into a new body after. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San EoN.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:11:00 -
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im not trying to pick fights over a game im just using people reasoning for grenades limit on other thing i.e. tanks should have an ammo limit and if grenades can't be refilled by a nanohive then mass drivers should not be too since they are the same thing pretty much |
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
772
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:13:00 -
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Only thing that makes nades spammable is their a bit too fast resupply rate from depot or hive.
Making nades more expensive nanitewise per unit would almost do it, but it wouldn't fix the depot spam. Delay, of say 15-20s, would do the trick. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
4049
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:14:00 -
[42] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote: Plus or minus one?
I mean, really.
Halo has 4. Of all the grenades. So, 4 and 4.
I haven't played CoD in a while, But I remember it was a fair number.
BF, I also haven't played in a while, But I remember a similar number of Grenades.
I'm sure ONE grenade doesn't invalidate my point, that grenade Spam is a issue with basically all Modern Shooters.
I'm not saying grenades shouldn't be nerfed, I was just answering the question.
And, you didn't ask for Legendary.
You asked for a self-respecting shooter. And DUST is a shooter, is it not?
smh. Don't be so negative.
1 grenade makes allot of difference actually. Especially when they have the power to OHK.
Btw, KZ was 2 grenades. I thought it was 3, but I asked a KZ guru. 2 grenades. So all those games, minus HALO had 2 grenades.
HALO is a shooter that's reliant on gungame. They could have 5 nades, and it comes down to who can shoot better. Ever watched MLG? I swear I never saw those guys throw a nade ... that's why I can't tell you how much nades they had.
DUST is not self respecting. It's one of the most unbalanced, 1 dimensional lobby shooters to date. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1434
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:29:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Meeko Fent wrote: Plus or minus one?
I mean, really.
Halo has 4. Of all the grenades. So, 4 and 4.
I haven't played CoD in a while, But I remember it was a fair number.
BF, I also haven't played in a while, But I remember a similar number of Grenades.
I'm sure ONE grenade doesn't invalidate my point, that grenade Spam is a issue with basically all Modern Shooters.
I'm not saying grenades shouldn't be nerfed, I was just answering the question.
And, you didn't ask for Legendary.
You asked for a self-respecting shooter. And DUST is a shooter, is it not?
smh. Don't be so negative.
1 grenade makes allot of difference actually. Especially when they have the power to OHK. Btw, KZ was 2 grenades. I thought it was 3, but I asked a KZ guru. 2 grenades. So all those games, minus HALO had 2 grenades. HALO is a shooter that's reliant on gungame. They could have 5 nades, and it comes down to who can shoot better. Ever watched MLG back in the day? I swear I never saw those guys throw a nade ... that's why I can't tell you how much nades they had. DUST is not self respecting. It's one of the most unbalanced, 1 dimensional lobby shooters to date. MLG, haven't heard that in... wow it's been a long time... BF4 1 nade, and the nade's blast radius isn't great... unless you have the Offensive Field Upgrades up to 2 or 3 which only gets 1 more nade... |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:09:00 -
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Its not really a nerf cause the damage/blast radius would remain the same but you have to think twice if you gonna waste your grenade or use it in a tactical situation. 3 grenades at the moment elimenates the tactical view of it. Just cook it, run around corner and throw for a free kill. Repeat this 3 times in a row and throw a nanohive to continue. Im quite sure that allmost every 1 allready experienced it that you see a guy throwing a grenade and then runs around the corner to buy himself more time to cook another grenade. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:16:00 -
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lol. no. if u make locus 1 you have to make av and flux 1. personally, i really wouldn't mind. I wouldn't carry grenades, though, bc i have a mass driver. it'd do wonders for my tank, tho :) |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:18:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Most of the time the grenades that are thrown are timed by the player to explode meaning its impossible to just see and move. |
m twiggz
Hollowed Kings
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:19:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one)
Battlefield 1942 - 3 grenades Battlefield: Vietnam - 4 grenades Battlefield: 2 - 4 grenades Battlefield 2142: - 2-3 grenades Battlefield: Bad Company - 5 grenades as secondary. Battlefield 1943 - 2 grenades (regenerate) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 1 grenade Battlefield 3 - 1 grenade at start (3 max) Quake - 2 hand grenades Counter-Strike - 1 HE grenade Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - 3 HE grenades Call of Duty 4 - 3 grenades Call of Duty: World at War - 3 grenades Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 1 start, 2 max (replenish with scavenger) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 1 grenade (no replenish) Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - 1 start, 2 danger close (replenish with scavenger)
Some of those games listed have 3 grenades and are definitely respected FPS games of their time. You sir, are wrong.
I would have included more, but, spending even more of my time to point out your stupidity would be stupid on my own part. |
m twiggz
Hollowed Kings
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:20:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:who cares if you are too dumb to not see grenades being thrown at you, you deserve to be killed by them Most of the time the grenades that are thrown are timed by the player to explode meaning its impossible to just see and move.
This "timing" of grenades takes TIME. Kill the person cooking it and you have no problem. Simple concept in all FPS games. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:09:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:When I said this months ago it was a problem. I guess people are finally starting to see a problem with having 3 proto nades in people's pockets. They're too strong to have 3 right off the bat, then you can magically sit on a nanohive and pluck them straight out your ass again in a hurry. Poor, POOR balance in any shooter when grenades can be spammed like it is in DUST, and the truly sad part is how many people like them as they are. Bunch of no skilled people sitting on nanohives spamming skill in a can. Yes kiddies, every self respecting FPS has 3 grenades in your pocket (name one) Battlefield 1942 - 3 grenades Battlefield: Vietnam - 4 grenades Battlefield: 2 - 4 grenades Battlefield 2142: - 2-3 grenades Battlefield: Bad Company - 5 grenades as secondary. Battlefield 1943 - 2 grenades (regenerate) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 1 grenade Battlefield 3 - 1 grenade at start (3 max) Quake - 2 hand grenades Counter-Strike - 1 HE grenade Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - 3 HE grenades Call of Duty 4 - 3 grenades Call of Duty: World at War - 3 grenades Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 1 start, 2 max (replenish with scavenger) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 1 grenade (no replenish) Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - 1 start, 2 danger close (replenish with scavenger) Some of those games listed have 3 grenades and are definitely respected FPS games of their time. You sir, are wrong. I would have included more, but, spending even more of my time to point out your stupidity would be stupid on my own part.
lol how many years ago are those BF games? lol... BF3 is 2 grenades max btw.
As you can see, with time they balanced it to fewer nades, no? Even CoD balanced their games to have fewer nades. So my "stupidity" was talking about recent games, not games 4-6 years ago, some of which I haven't played.
Talking about my stupidity, how does BF3 have 3 nades? Kinda makes your whole list questionable tbh |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:32:00 -
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Just make nades req mor pg/cpu and cost more nsnites at a hive |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.10.15 05:11:00 -
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EDIT: Oh nevermind... Same old argument... |
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