should i also mention that damage mods r the problem when it comes to the forge guns?

maybe u r being shot down by a breach forge?.

as thats the only variant that can ohk mostly any vehicle..

the reg fg and assault forge gun r better vs infantry than vehicles.

if u r complaining about losing derpships to a fg run an armor repper on your ship..

it will save it from falling to the ground if u r fast enough.

1 is needed, I'd like to point out that assault weapon variants have higher ROF and lower damage.

Troll away, denial is expected.

should i also mention that damage mods r the problem when it comes to the forge guns?

maybe u r being shot down by a breach forge?.

as thats the only variant that can ohk mostly any vehicle..

the reg fg and assault forge gun r better vs infantry than vehicles.

if u r complaining about losing derpships to a fg run an armor repper on your ship..

it will save it from falling to the ground if u r fast enough.

well the dropships on this game are more like flying lavs any ways...

only if u wanted to kill some1 u had to land on them..

which wasnt hard to do before the lav bumper nerf.


and my adv unspecced into assault fg cant even ohk a viper.

the swarms are always the finishers..

the only problem with dropships is they cant support the team with gunfire when av is around in general.

but when they r completely ignored by the enemy team.

they become devastating killing machines.

don't touch forge guns, that will hurt peoples feelings, just buff dropships.

START OFF WITH RETURNING THE CAMERA ANGLE TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE YOU STARTED CHANGING IT!!!

It is honestly less work for you to just leave it alone, you created more work for yourselves that hurt us more. Now aiming is more difficult than ever because i have to aim through my dropship, and since i don't have stealth modules (I wish) i can't see through myself, i liked it better when the camera was above the dropship so you could see the entire ship, made it easier for shooting, aiming, and maneuvering.

Then apply all of your epic patch notes for vehicle update and bam done! (i hope)

I agree with you though maybe you should try starting a thread without automatically going on the defensive and pulling the woe is me everyone that disagrees with me is a troll crap.

No it doesn't it just makes you look like a mule headed fool, anyway I agree forge OP vs UP dropships especially after the changes to them in this recent patch, guristas assault forge 3 shotted my incubus before i even had time to bank and fly off last time i flew it.

I admire you're post, Thurak. (It's agreeing with mine, but LOL even if it wasn't in line with mine, I'd still admire it.)

Somewhere between our complaints and CCP's slow approaching return to "fundamentals" with vehicles, the Dropship is slowly (arguably "finally") being DEFINED.

It's an implied Transporter, for inserting or extracting mercs (meaning IN, can't stick around too long, then OUT)...
It's a LIGHT vehicle by classification, and pilots need to keep in perspective that "light" means it's never meant to take punishment from weaponry built to punch heavier targets than us...
And since the classification isn't likely to change, maybe we ought to be accepting it's defensive weaknesses as "sensible for its class", not request our enemy to be reduced just because of our adored DS, and close our book on the subject.

Well-centered perspective, Thurak. Thanks

I'm a dedicated forge gunner and while I agree that the Assault FG needs to have it's damage a bit lower, I don't agree that it shouldn't destroy vehicles. That would be like me saying that heavies should get 80%+ damage resistance to all non-av weapons. It's not going to happen.

AV means anti-vehicle, not annoy-vehicle. I mean really, DS pilots only need to worry about HAV turrets, Installation Turrets, SWARMS, Forge and maybe small missile turrets on other DSs. And if a DS pilot is stressing over AV grenades, then he/she is doing something seriously wrong.

But with the proliferation of the forum warrior tears against anything that's effective against their playstyle, and CCP's apparent willingness to somewhat give in, I don't doubt that sometime, in the near future of heavy forge gunners, we'll end up immobile firing 1 shot every 8 seconds for a maximum of 625 damage per shot, no splash, with a magazine size of 2 and max ammo of 8, 1 meter dispersion per 10 meter range with no targeting reticle. And you whiners will still cry that we're op because we'll have to fit for max tank at around 1400 hp.

No. You said AV shouldn't destroy vehicles. I said it could use a little bit of a damage nerf, not much, just a touch.

As for the last paragraph you need to learn to comprehend satirical speculative writing. I was just saying that many of the vehicle pilot forum warriors apparently won't be happy until the heavy forge gunner is reduced to complete ineffectiveness then the infantry forum warriors will probably complain that the immobilized heavy is still OP due to their high HP.