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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:13:00 -
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I don't like suggesting that we nerf things but maybe the DPS of the AR could fall off faster and bottom out lower. The LR will melt anything at optimal in very short order but the AR still has good damage at the far end of medium range. I just see the weapon as close to medium range with a sharper fall off. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:40:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:I can almost always out gun an AR with My SMGs and with a Scrambler assault variant. Snipers and forges can still out-do AR for obvious reasons, and if you're using a Proto Heavy against a Proto Assault and you lose it just means you suck.
Lasers are only good if you're using the Viziam, so if you were using the Viziam against the Duvolle and you lost it probably means he was strafing you weren't/you had way less HP/wasn't really optimal range. Whatever.
Everyone who says AR is OP might be right or might be wrong, but whatever the case they are certaintly beatable by any other gun if you know how to properly use it. Uh. The Viziam sucks. For higher price, fitting requirement, SP requirement and feedback damage, you again the ability to shoot ~15 more "rounds" before it overheats. The standard LR is way better, because you can stack CX damage mods on it easier, and not lose half of your HP when you overheat, which the LR does fairly often.
Yes. If you have good Amarr assault skills then the Viziam is better while using a proto suit. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:54:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Aircraft do not equal spacecraft, if you are going to be like that. The races of New Eden have combat philosophies that work, in any setting. Why would the Gallente change something that works because they are on the ground? They use high DPS blasters at really close range, the AR should reflect this. If the AR behaved like it should , it would be no less effective than it currently is, just more niche, like all of the other weapons in the game. The current AR is an amalgamation of the GAR, the Combat Rifle and the Rail Rifle, but without any of their weaknesses.
BS. Why do people want to cherry pick physics? Add bullet drop to everything and give me a mirrored dropsuit ward off lasers then. Modern day military weaponry can travel well over the distance of any map we play on. The Lore argument needs to stop now. The goal isn't balance by lore it is balance by functional game mechanics so just stop. EVE is balanced. Really well. Also mirror covercovered dropsuits wouldn't work for anything other than visible light. That's fine and all but my point about plasma still stands without challenge. Dust is not space and therefore plasma is not affected by cold and lack of oxygen so it can fly father and burn longer. Goodnight.
Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the railgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range. It is magnetism not temperature that contains the charge. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:02:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:That's fine and all but my point about plasma still stands without challenge.
Dust is not space and therefore plasma is not affected by cold and lack of oxygen so it can fly father and burn longer.
Goodnight. Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the railgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range. It is magnetism not temperature that contains the charge. You've been lawyered son.
Wiki
I have always been told that a lawyer never asks a question that they don't know the answer to. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:34:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Severus Smith wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:That's fine and all but my point about plasma still stands without challenge.
Dust is not space and therefore plasma is not affected by cold and lack of oxygen so it can fly father and burn longer.
Goodnight. Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the railgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range. It is magnetism not temperature that contains the charge. @KGB Sleep - You've been lawyered son. WikiI have always been told that a lawyer never asks a question that they don't know the answer to. TRB, maybe I said it poorly since I quoted your reply and not KGB Sleep's. I agree with you. I added the above to clarify.
I was just providing my source, so people didn't think that I just made it up. You know, because this game is real and all. |
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