|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
474
   |
Posted - 2013.10.14 11:48:00 -
[1] - Quote
KGB Sleep wrote:True Adamance wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Yup that's the worst, why does blaster tech out DPS a laser at its optimal?
Because CCP does not think of it as a blaster, even though that's exactly what it's supposed to be. They made the mistake of calling it an assault rifle, which is what every noob will immediately gravitate to because of its familiar name and function. Shattering that comfort zone for the casual scrub is dangerous, so they will not fix it. It's a shame, because it could have easily had a lot more character to it. Seems like they shattered the comfort zone of evetards that think Dust is Eve. To add further, these are mercs, not ships. Dust is in New Eden you ******* idiot. Jesus you'd think some people would remember that.... pathetic. Just like we build all of our weapons in specific ways, so too do the Gallente, why would they change their combat discipline on the ground when it works so well in space? HEY ADAM INFANTRY DOES NOT EQUAL AIRCRAFT IN ANY SETTING THANK YOU DUMBASS GNITE
Aircraft do not equal spacecraft, if you are going to be like that.
The races of New Eden have combat philosophies that work, in any setting. Why would the Gallente change something that works because they are on the ground? They use high DPS blasters at really close range, the AR should reflect this.
If the AR behaved like it should , it would be no less effective than it currently is, just more niche, like all of the other weapons in the game. The current AR is an amalgamation of the GAR, the Combat Rifle and the Rail Rifle, but without any of their weaknesses. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
474
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 11:53:00 -
[2] - Quote
843 Epidemic wrote:I can almost always out gun an AR with My SMGs and with a Scrambler assault variant. Snipers and forges can still out-do AR for obvious reasons, and if you're using a Proto Heavy against a Proto Assault and you lose it just means you suck.
Lasers are only good if you're using the Viziam, so if you were using the Viziam against the Duvolle and you lost it probably means he was strafing you weren't/you had way less HP/wasn't really optimal range. Whatever.
Everyone who says AR is OP might be right or might be wrong, but whatever the case they are certaintly beatable by any other gun if you know how to properly use it.
Uh. The Viziam sucks. For higher price, fitting requirement, SP requirement and feedback damage, you again the ability to shoot ~15 more "rounds" before it overheats. The standard LR is way better, because you can stack CX damage mods on it easier, and not lose half of your HP when you overheat, which the LR does fairly often. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
474
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 12:13:00 -
[3] - Quote
KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Aircraft do not equal spacecraft, if you are going to be like that.
The races of New Eden have combat philosophies that work, in any setting. Why would the Gallente change something that works because they are on the ground? They use high DPS blasters at really close range, the AR should reflect this.
If the AR behaved like it should , it would be no less effective than it currently is, just more niche, like all of the other weapons in the game. The current AR is an amalgamation of the GAR, the Combat Rifle and the Rail Rifle, but without any of their weaknesses.
BS. Why do people want to cherry pick physics? Add bullet drop to everything and give me a mirrored dropsuit ward off lasers then. Modern day military weaponry can travel well over the distance of any map we play on. The Lore argument needs to stop now. The goal isn't balance by lore it is balance by functional game mechanics so just stop.
EVE is balanced. Really well. Also mirror covercovered dropsuits wouldn't work for anything other than visible light. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
476
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 19:22:00 -
[4] - Quote
KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Aircraft do not equal spacecraft, if you are going to be like that.
The races of New Eden have combat philosophies that work, in any setting. Why would the Gallente change something that works because they are on the ground? They use high DPS blasters at really close range, the AR should reflect this.
If the AR behaved like it should , it would be no less effective than it currently is, just more niche, like all of the other weapons in the game. The current AR is an amalgamation of the GAR, the Combat Rifle and the Rail Rifle, but without any of their weaknesses.
BS. Why do people want to cherry pick physics? Add bullet drop to everything and give me a mirrored dropsuit ward off lasers then. Modern day military weaponry can travel well over the distance of any map we play on. The Lore argument needs to stop now. The goal isn't balance by lore it is balance by functional game mechanics so just stop. EVE is balanced. Really well. Also mirror covercovered dropsuits wouldn't work for anything other than visible light. That's fine and all but my point about plasma still stands without challenge. Dust is not space and therefore plasma is not affected by cold and lack of oxygen so it can fly father and burn longer. Goodnight.
Your point is wrong.
That is just it, Plasma is affected less by the vaccum of space than it is by an atmosphere, it would actually fly further and retain more energy there. Space isn't "cold", it has no tempurature because there is little to no matter there. Also the lack of oxygen would only help the plasma travel further, because it wouldn't be there causing resistance and stealing thermal energy.
You shouldn't rely so much on common sense. Because the common sense of people is usually wrong. Rely on proofs and observations instead.
|
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
Public Disorder.
477
|
Posted - 2013.10.14 23:22:00 -
[5] - Quote
ReGnYuM wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:
Aircraft do not equal spacecraft, if you are going to be like that.
The races of New Eden have combat philosophies that work, in any setting. Why would the Gallente change something that works because they are on the ground? They use high DPS blasters at really close range, the AR should reflect this.
If the AR behaved like it should , it would be no less effective than it currently is, just more niche, like all of the other weapons in the game. The current AR is an amalgamation of the GAR, the Combat Rifle and the Rail Rifle, but without any of their weaknesses.
BS. Why do people want to cherry pick physics? Add bullet drop to everything and give me a mirrored dropsuit ward off lasers then. Modern day military weaponry can travel well over the distance of any map we play on. The Lore argument needs to stop now. The goal isn't balance by lore it is balance by functional game mechanics so just stop. EVE is balanced. Really well. Also mirror covercovered dropsuits wouldn't work for anything other than visible light. Eve is a tab shooter and Dust is an FPS I hope I don't need to explain the difference  This whole niche argument needs to stop
The genres might be different, but there are far too many similarities to disregard EVE because it isn't an FPS. EVE is the closest thing to Dust besides Borderlands in its use of different Health and Damage types, along with range differences tied to certain damage types. But you can't really balance a Competitive FPS off of Borderlands due to the fact that Borderlands is purposely unbalanced with its levels, guns that get worse as you progress, ect. We can take many of the balancing techniques used in EVE, and apply them to Dust 514 with much success IMO. |
|
|
| |
|