DUST Search - Weapon Balance needs to be based on PC Stats

Alldin Kan wrote:

ReGnYuM wrote:

Now before everybody starts foaming at the mouth and chanting: Elitist, Elitist, burn the Elitist. Take a second to hear me out.

As we all know, the current public match finder is plagued with unbalanced variables. Team sizes, Gear, Lack of roles...etc. Therefore, why would anyone try to use data from such a broken system to balance anything. It would be like trying to build a skyscraper on a sandy foundation.

Now no one is saying PC is perfect, but it is definitely more consistent than public matches. CCP I highly suggest that for weapon balance, you use PC statistics.

Anyways, I wish people just tired PC before commenting how awesome the AR is every situation, because it really is not.

LOL I'm still waiting on CCP to apply these changes:

New Breach AR/SMG stats:

Breach AR Damage - 63.7 HP (STD), 66.8 HP (ADV), 70.1 HP (PRO)
Breach AR RoF - 450
High Kick for Breach AR
Breach SMG RoF - 882.8
Breach SMG clip size - 62
Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG

New Logistics changes:

Slot layout has low count on all dropsuits to prevent high HP (it's a medic class not an Officer Assault suit)
CPU/PG would be lowered to accommodate above change

New Grenade Stats:

All Grenade types except Fused will have Max. Ammo of 2
Grenades cannot be resupplied from Nanohives, this is to prevent spam and use it tactically.
Fused Locus Grenade - 350 dmg, 2.5 splash radius, 9 CPU and 2 PG
M2 Contact Locus Grenade - 400 dmg, 2.8 splash Radius, 18 CPU and 3 PG
Thukker Contact Locus Grenade - 450 dmg, 3.0 splash radius, 48 CPU and 6 PG

New stats for Ammar Commando:

Shield - 320 HP
Armor - 320 HP
Shield Recharge Rate - 17.0 HP/s
CPU/PG would receive a slight increase
Ammar Commando Bonus - 10% to efficacy of Shield/Armor Modules per level

New Sentinel bonus:

3% to handheld weapon damage resistance per level

Plasma Cannon Assault Variant:

Same Splash Damage stats as the current PLC
Base Splash Radius is 3.8 m
Max. Ammo at 12
Charge time is .6 s

Plasma Cannon Normal Variant:

20% higher Splash damage than the Assault Variant
Base Splash Radius is 3.5 m
Charge time is 1 s

The operation skill for the Plasma Cannon weapon is to be replaced with 5% Splash Radius increase per level.


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Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 411	Posted - 2013.10.13 14:54:00 - [1] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Now before everybody starts foaming at the mouth and chanting: Elitist, Elitist, burn the Elitist. Take a second to hear me out. As we all know, the current public match finder is plagued with unbalanced variables. Team sizes, Gear, Lack of roles...etc. Therefore, why would anyone try to use data from such a broken system to balance anything. It would be like trying to build a skyscraper on a sandy foundation. Now no one is saying PC is perfect, but it is definitely more consistent than public matches. CCP I highly suggest that for weapon balance, you use PC statistics. Anyways, I wish people just tired PC before commenting how awesome the AR is every situation, because it really is not. LOL I'm still waiting on CCP to apply these changes: New Breach AR/SMG stats: Breach AR Damage - 63.7 HP (STD), 66.8 HP (ADV), 70.1 HP (PRO) Breach AR RoF - 450 High Kick for Breach AR Breach SMG RoF - 882.8 Breach SMG clip size - 62 Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG New Logistics changes: Slot layout has low count on all dropsuits to prevent high HP (it's a medic class not an Officer Assault suit) CPU/PG would be lowered to accommodate above change New Grenade Stats: All Grenade types except Fused will have Max. Ammo of 2 Grenades cannot be resupplied from Nanohives, this is to prevent spam and use it tactically. Fused Locus Grenade - 350 dmg, 2.5 splash radius, 9 CPU and 2 PG M2 Contact Locus Grenade - 400 dmg, 2.8 splash Radius, 18 CPU and 3 PG Thukker Contact Locus Grenade - 450 dmg, 3.0 splash radius, 48 CPU and 6 PG [Changes to contact grenades must be made together with "No resupply" change. New stats for Ammar Commando: Shield - 320 HP Armor - 320 HP Shield Recharge Rate - 17.0 HP/s CPU/PG would receive a slight increase Ammar Commando Bonus - 10% to efficacy of Shield/Armor Modules per level New Sentinel bonus: 3% to handheld weapon damage resistance per level Plasma Cannon Assault Variant: Same Splash Damage stats as the current PLC Base Splash Radius is 3.8 m Max. Ammo at 12 Charge time is .6 s Plasma Cannon Normal Variant: 20% higher Splash damage than the Assault Variant Base Splash Radius is 3.5 m Charge time is 1 s The operation skill for the Plasma Cannon weapon is to be replaced with 5% Splash Radius increase per level. Did that hurt when you pulled this list out of your ass? God damn.