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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:38:00 -
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Ok I just read an article where the ceo of ccp stated that he wasn't focusing on dust being on the ps4. If true let me say one thing. your quote was we have a playerbase who give us great feedback. since we give great feedback let me say this. 1.your playerbase will leave as soon as you decide to not make plans to push dust514 to the ps4. why? well this game as it stands if im not correct its on its last string. nothing major has come out for this game and hot fixes will not keep a loyal playerbase as clans friends of those clans will slowly move to the ps4 system where games like planetside 2 and destiny and many other mmo's and mmo fps will be coming.
Lately the feedback ive seen on these forums is a bit shaky I will agree but there are also many dedicated players with solid feedback who also go unheard because of 2 reasons, the massive amount of kids and trolls on the forums and the lack of the developers devotion to the game and its fans. My advice as a dedicated player since day 1 of closed beta release would be to rethink your priorities and continue to do hot fixes until the release of the ps4 system and when the ps4 system does come out to make dust514 one of the release games for the new system which can probably work twice as better with all the issues the game has. what people who truly have or had hope for this game will want eventually is one a smooth lag free competitive game that offers more then just 16v16 planetary conquest on more then one system. Faction warfare matches to actually stand for something more then a major pub stomp with stacked teams and regular public matches where stats, kdr, kills are matched to make better played games and more even with player v player action. the ps4 im sure can handle things like this. we want action and more then just one game style. eve has been around how long? And how long will you want dust514 to go? Rethink your priorities. Id hate to see this game disappear like MAG did. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1736
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:45:00 -
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You so unattached with reality.. that i don't even know where to start. You honestly think that everyone is going to stop using the PS3, because they have a PS4 ? |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:46:00 -
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Wow if you really think this whole community wants this game to be on ps 4 could you at least provind links to the numerous threads asking for it. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
303
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:48:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:You so unattached with reality.. that i don't even know where to start. You honestly think that everyone is going to stop using the PS3, because they have a PS4 ?
never said that but eventually ps3 will stop making games like the ps2 did and sony will prioritize the ps4 as they have done with all other systems. and the playerbase will be gone. just like mag. same exact thing happened with that game and its starting to happen here.
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Roner General
Ancient Exiles
36
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:49:00 -
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I want a pokemans in dust so i can have pokemon battles in dust... |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
303
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Posted - 2013.10.13 11:51:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Wow if you really think this whole community wants this game to be on ps 4 could you at least provind links to the numerous threads asking for it.
so your happy with the current state of the game? do you not want it to improve rather then to stay the way it is? because a ps3 can only handle so much. its obvious the lag wont be fixed for planetary conquest and a 16v16 wont be fun forever. fighting the same maps wont be either.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1605
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:06:00 -
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Sigh. So many ridiculous people.
Of course the game will eventually go to the PS4 -- it's either that or die off. The question is when. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:11:00 -
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Look at GD we are drowning in 'Make the game on PS4' thread
Sorry no we are not, maybe 2 threads at the most, generally none at all
Imma jump for a PS4 when i can, but im keeping my PS3 online because of DUST and also other games i need to complete
Why would they ditch the PS3 and port a half arsed unfinished game on the PS4? if they did that they would be making another blunder and would supass the release blunder because they would be doing it on a next gen console with an even smaller playerbase
It would be better if they decided to release on PS4 after PS3 has basically beta tested it out so when they hit PS4, its generally finished ie racial suits and vehicles with all mods and working fun gamemodes and i hope PVE, that way they can pull more ppl in and also at thet time PS4 will have more ppl |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1736
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:13:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:You so unattached with reality.. that i don't even know where to start. You honestly think that everyone is going to stop using the PS3, because they have a PS4 ? never said that but eventually ps3 will stop making games like the ps2 did and sony will prioritize the ps4 as they have done with all other systems. and the playerbase will be gone. just like mag. same exact thing happened with that game and its starting to happen here.
We talking about YEARS from now...CCP just said that they don't have any "immediate" plans for the PS4, not what they going to be doing 2 years from now. |
jin foxdale
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
78
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:15:00 -
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Obviously I know nothing, but it seems that unless CCP are actively working - and working hard - as we read and write these very posts, and are WELL into the process, then its going to be a long while until Dust gets ported over to the ps4 anyway.
From my own perspective, I'm holding off on the ps4 until they iron out the inevitable bugs with the release console, and drop the price a tiny bit, and I've owned the sh*t out of Dark Souls 2. I'll continue playing Dust till then (albeit probably less than I do now) and if it doesn't get ported over, I'll keep a ps3 in the kitchen for when the wife is watching Hollyoaks/Eastenders/X-factor and all that other trash.
Surely 99% of the ENTIRE playerbase are going to do EXACTLY the same thing as I plan to do? No? pffft. Fools. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1737
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:21:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:Obviously I know nothing, but it seems that unless CCP are actively working - and working hard - as we read and write these very posts, and are WELL into the process, then its going to be a long while until Dust gets ported over to the ps4 anyway.
From my own perspective, I'm holding off on the ps4 until they iron out the inevitable bugs with the release console, and drop the price a tiny bit, and I've owned the sh*t out of Dark Souls 2. I'll continue playing Dust till then (albeit probably less than I do now) and if it doesn't get ported over, I'll keep a ps3 in the kitchen for when the wife is watching Hollyoaks/Eastenders/X-factor and all that other trash.
Surely 99% of the ENTIRE playerbase are going to do EXACTLY the same thing as I plan to do? No? pffft. Fools.
I actually have a PS2 in the bathroom and a PS1 in the garden... consoles everywhere. |
IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
53
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:22:00 -
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Personally i want to see the game more polished before it moves to the PS4 and PC
right now its very hard to get new people playing and the missing weapons/dropsuits and vehicles are a big part of it
the match making system needs to be cleaned up, the academy and new player experience improved, some bugs sorted out etc
once all that is done then i would like to see a big launch marketing campaign that's its opening on other platforms, testing would be needed before this on a small scale too
i think they are doing this the right way, however i agree it cant take too long before it hits those platforms as numbers will drop quick with ps4 coming out, but we did not lose that many with bf4 and gta v coming out
all we can do is trust their plan and hope to not get bored and move to another game before it happens |
jin foxdale
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:26:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Obviously I know nothing, but it seems that unless CCP are actively working - and working hard - as we read and write these very posts, and are WELL into the process, then its going to be a long while until Dust gets ported over to the ps4 anyway.
From my own perspective, I'm holding off on the ps4 until they iron out the inevitable bugs with the release console, and drop the price a tiny bit, and I've owned the sh*t out of Dark Souls 2. I'll continue playing Dust till then (albeit probably less than I do now) and if it doesn't get ported over, I'll keep a ps3 in the kitchen for when the wife is watching Hollyoaks/Eastenders/X-factor and all that other trash.
Surely 99% of the ENTIRE playerbase are going to do EXACTLY the same thing as I plan to do? No? pffft. Fools. I actually have a PS2 in the bathroom and a PS1 in the garden... consoles everywhere.
Now that's hardcore - please tell me the PS2 is just for getting timesplitters 2 trophies, and the PS1 is half buried and houses spare keys for your house? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1737
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:43:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Obviously I know nothing, but it seems that unless CCP are actively working - and working hard - as we read and write these very posts, and are WELL into the process, then its going to be a long while until Dust gets ported over to the ps4 anyway.
From my own perspective, I'm holding off on the ps4 until they iron out the inevitable bugs with the release console, and drop the price a tiny bit, and I've owned the sh*t out of Dark Souls 2. I'll continue playing Dust till then (albeit probably less than I do now) and if it doesn't get ported over, I'll keep a ps3 in the kitchen for when the wife is watching Hollyoaks/Eastenders/X-factor and all that other trash.
Surely 99% of the ENTIRE playerbase are going to do EXACTLY the same thing as I plan to do? No? pffft. Fools. I actually have a PS2 in the bathroom and a PS1 in the garden... consoles everywhere. Now that's hardcore - please tell me the PS2 is just for getting timesplitters 2 trophies, and the PS1 is half buried and houses spare keys for your house?
It have always been like that in my house. When i get the PS4 it will be ;
PS4- In the center of the living room with my huge HDTV PS3- Will replace the PS2 in my gaming room, with a small HDTV. PS2- Will end up in a box with the PS1. |
jin foxdale
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
80
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Posted - 2013.10.13 12:49:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:jin foxdale wrote:Obviously I know nothing, but it seems that unless CCP are actively working - and working hard - as we read and write these very posts, and are WELL into the process, then its going to be a long while until Dust gets ported over to the ps4 anyway.
From my own perspective, I'm holding off on the ps4 until they iron out the inevitable bugs with the release console, and drop the price a tiny bit, and I've owned the sh*t out of Dark Souls 2. I'll continue playing Dust till then (albeit probably less than I do now) and if it doesn't get ported over, I'll keep a ps3 in the kitchen for when the wife is watching Hollyoaks/Eastenders/X-factor and all that other trash.
Surely 99% of the ENTIRE playerbase are going to do EXACTLY the same thing as I plan to do? No? pffft. Fools. I actually have a PS2 in the bathroom and a PS1 in the garden... consoles everywhere. Now that's hardcore - please tell me the PS2 is just for getting timesplitters 2 trophies, and the PS1 is half buried and houses spare keys for your house? It have always been like that in my house. When i get the PS4 it will be ; PS4- In the center of the living room with my huge HDTV PS3- Will replace the PS2 in my gaming room, with a small HDTV. PS2- Will end up in a box with the PS1.
I'd have all 4 in my spare room, with 4 HDTVs on the wall and the 4 generations of dualshock glued to the arms of an electric wheelchair. And a catheter of course!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
197
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:32:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:dazlb72 wrote:PS4 pre orders are sold out, you will now struggle to get one before christmas. Some of these people will sell their PS3's to help pay for it. The "not many people will get one at launch" argument just doesn't seem to ring true. 80% of the people on my PSN friends list are getting one. The launch titles are looking strong (much stronger than they did for PS3) the only black mark i can give it so far is the announcement made about compatible headsets. Roll on November......... You're not using logic. Let's assume every single PS4 pre-order that sells is going to hardcore shooter-fan that will absolutely never play anything unless it's PS4/Xbone ever again, because.... mental issues or something. That could be like 1.5 million consoles! Wow, think of all the DUST PLAYERS?! What's their potential audience on the PS3? Well, there were 70 million sold a year ago.So, if you compare the two, the pre-order estimate of the PS4 (as of three days ago) is 2% of the current sold number of PS3s. Even if EVERY single pre-order is a current PS3 owner that literally tosses their PS3 in the trash, IT'S STILL ONLY 2%! Here's an analogy for you: Now, let's imagine for a moment that you're selling lemonade (or danishes, peanuts, whatever) to a crowd of 100 people, but you're frustrated because you think more people should be buying them. Someone says, there's going to be this other group of people you could sell stuff to, and it's huge!!! THERE'S ALREADY 2 PEOPLE THERE!! That's basically how stupid it would be for them to try to fracture their tiny pool of devs to chase a miniscule market. Even if you want to get a PS4 (and I think it looks like a great console), it's silly to assume that: A) People buying a PS4 will get rid of a PS3 when the PS4 isn't BC. Some people will trade all their stuff, sure. Those tend to be idiots and kids though (from experience in retail). B) The majority of the buyers would necessarily be fans of or looking to play some sort of MMO shooter. Even super popular games like Madden and CoD only appeal to a certain segment of the public. C) That the PS4 market will quickly eclipse an already established console market (math already makes that obvious). Wii, 360, PS3... all of those had big launches where they sold out. They still didn't come close to the numbers of the existing consoles for some time. Do you think the PS2 became unpopular when the PS3 launched? Even with the PS3 frickin SOLD OUT, the PS2 still sold like crazy. It's actually a lot easier for them to sell PS3s when the new stuff is all sold out. D) That everyone will always want the newest console. From retail experience, other consoles wind up getting a little rush around a launch too. Old consoles often get cheaper when new ones are released, and if you're shopping around you can suddenly find a bluray-player that's super cheap with a giant game library vs. an expensive untested console with a handful of "launch titles" - the latter option is a lot more appealing for many people. If Dust hasn't made any overtures towards jumping to PC/PS4/Whatever in a couples years, then it'll be an issue.
It's level headed and well thought out.. the PS4 will be a very tiny market for a long time...and i don't believe CCP will even abandon the PS3 when it does make the switch.. they will multi-platform on both...
As far as business for a developer like CCP... the PS4 is to much investment for return's and will be for most Developer's for a while... and Why the PS3 will still have games being actively developed for it. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1081
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:15:00 -
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The real value of staying on the PS3 is that it is a constrained, resource-limited development environment. This is forcing CCP to think about and optimize their code in ways that they would not have to on PS4 or PC, but the upshot of that process is much of that hard-won optimization will be of great benefit when we do move to PS4.
Even if code doesn't port directly, the lessons learned will not be lost. What CCP is doing by staying on PS3 is building their depth and experience as a developer.
A good call imo. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6924
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:32:00 -
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I'm so pumped for the 1.7 respec ^_^ |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
412
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:49:00 -
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they should not port to ps4 until 1 the ps4 playerbase is larger not initial release. also they should use the ps3 to get this game together and balance at very least the items in the game before porting to ps4.
the game can be much improved on while it is on the ps3..but from what i can tell ccp is taking way to long.
ccp you might as well take a leaf from square enix and remove and scrap dust redo it..we told you this months ago the playerbase you use as an excuse to keep dust around.
and really of that player base they're is probably like 400 vets on average and a bunch of scrubs who havnt learned the terribad state dust is in....and if they do realize how bad it is they havnt realized that everything talked about on these forums has been said before..this has all been argued out before...these forums are a repeating tape it is irritating and that reflects more on ccp and their inability to make one solid permanent fix for any of the issues expressed by the community.
there is always an op item and always a nerfed to **** class dust is a game where the only skill required is deciphering what will be the next cheap gimmick to win on the next patch.
from forge gun,to tac ar, the bumble bee suit,contact nades, charge sniper, massdriver.
and through all of dust the most ruined thing has always been the most expensive thing VEHICLES.
the community spouts the same feedback month after month and on clogs ccp..might as well give up forum warriors no one is listening.
accept that 1 dust is first and formost and sand box game and not competitive at all. and get on with the eves players saying adapt or die...means grab those cheap gimmicks while they are hot. aim assist is op currently stop cryng and cut it on.. predict what ccp will ruin next enjoy its ruined state..and move on. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1159
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:39:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Wow if you really think this whole community wants this game to be on ps 4 could you at least provind links to the numerous threads asking for it. so your happy with the current state of the game? do you not want it to improve rather then to stay the way it is? because a ps3 can only handle so much. its obvious the lag wont be fixed for planetary conquest and a 16v16 wont be fun forever. fighting the same maps wont be either.
I cant say its entirely perfect and couldent do without a bit of polishing but an imediate jumo to ps4 will allienatw allot of this community whondont have the income to just jumo out and buy one. Folks who have invested cash so far in this game. Thus would not be right. Just because you yourself can afford to just gonget yourself a ps4 dosent mean everyone else can. I personally could but I always wait at keast 6 to 8 months after release before I consider uograding my games system as was pointed out tge ps3 will carry on for a few years yet. |
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Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
1147
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Posted - 2013.10.13 15:54:00 -
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You do realize that very few people are actually buying the PS4 on release?
Why design something for a platform that is very new, and therefore both buggy and not everyone has it?
It be like making aftermarket parts for a brand new car. It could sell like a Camarillo and you'll be happy you made the parts, or it could end up like a ford pinto, and reget it. |
Blood Immortal
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:14:00 -
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PS4 is better than PS3, but current games on PS3 do not push the system to its limits even now, not my opinion it is sony and the tech reports. PS3 has a lot of life left in it and the game should focus on fixing what they have and stop adding more broken content.
Like really how long does it take to remove a rail gun placed under ground with no way to get to it? |
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