I'm dreaming. This is a thread about Snipers being valuable members of a squad, and not enough AR 514 thread?

To be honest, I'm only playing this game on passive, doing a little bit then putting it away for a week, as a Dedicated Sniper. These new maps are terrible for it, but CCP themselves have said they are designing maps to be Sniper Unfriendly.

Sad part about being sniper is that nothing in the game supports you, none of the maps have any conventional sniper points, and no I don't mean those tiny little watch towers at your base (Nobody uses those.), most snipers use DS to get them to the most ridicules sniper points, finding a good sniping point should be this complected, to make it worse counter sniping is more difficult as the best way to counter this is to do the same thing. None of the current suits support sniping, sniper fittings are very limited in options, heavy suit if you want more HP, Logi if you want more damage, Assault if you want the in-between, and Scouts are the worse, low PG/CPU, low slots, and the skill bonus doesn't help if the goal is to stay away from the enemy. All useful cover is on low grounded positions, which adds more to the lack of practical sniping positions.

Even in Beta, Dust has never liked Snipers, CCP has yet to add anything to support snipers and it doesn't help that snipers have to resort to flying to the top of some unreachable platform, which in turn makes CCP want to make more maps with anti-sniper. But maybe I'm being petty, Dust currently has rendering issues, which makes sniping difficult in a way it shouldn't, so maybe when ever they improve rendering Snipers will start getting some love.

Nobody hates snipers, they hate redline snipers. These new maps and sockets are designed to prevent people from simply sitting under the MCC, going 1/0 in a match, barely contributing to their team. There's plenty of good sniping spots, but the only difference is you have to actually put yourself in danger.

I like the changes that CCP made so that it is not so easy for snipers.

Come on, in the beginning you just sit there starring on the victory point and if someone was hacking PIFF he was dead.

That is too easy. Even snipers have to work ^^

So know, the sniper is out when someone reaches the basement of the victory point.
But nevertheless he can kill him on the way to it.

And I think there are enough sniper places around. Otherwise snipers would not be able to kill me or my buddies :)

I went into a match with the squad-mates and said I was going. Of course, I get the bull about not being a real valuable asset to the team, and so I tell them basically what I said in this thread.

After being laughed at a little bit more, we head into the match. Here's how it went basically.
1) Spawned in.
2) Ran to hill near MCC
3) Killed 3 people hacking Alpha
4) Moved to hill above Charlie
5) Started calling out enemy positions and threats.

I was able to see more of the field, and able to pay more attention to the situation. I didn't get the most kills, but I stole a couple from one guy in particular who thought snipers were uselss (You know who you are. ;D), and managed to get only 1 death from a glitch where I didn't get the message while on the edge of the redline.

The first minute or so of the game was like this:
Me: Alright, I have one on Alpha, taking him out *Kills first guy*
Squadmate 1: How have you already killed one person? I haven't even gotten to the turrets outside Bravo yet!
Me: Because Snipers are useful, no matter what anyone else says. I'm keeping Alpha clear, and you kill the remainder. *Kills 2 and 3*
Squadmate 1: Alrighty, well could you keep it clear forever?
Me: No, because I have to reload at some point. *Misses and Alpha gets hacked* Alright, onto the more useful point.

By the end of the match, he got pissed a couple times because I stole 3 of his kills. It was also me that spotted out the first 2-3 tanks, before they got blowed up, and then me who spotted the LAV trying to sneak around the back of Charlie.

So to anyone who thinks Snipers are useless, you're talking about the ones that are just in it to boost K/D. I managed to keep Alpha clear for about a full minute, and then kept on spotting out enemies for my squad-mates to prepare for and then destroy. Not to mention keeping the map clear of enemy snipers.

Sure, throw in a sardine sandwich and it's a deal!

one sniper is okay. two snipers can be a really good team.

more than that and snipers take away from the battle.

''The sniper is easily the most important class of the game,''

LOL, this...HAHA man i LOLs my abs still hurt and sh*at XD
Snipers are a sucky class for stat padders (95% ov them)
How many times we have 3 or 4 snipers in the team and insted of shooting people TAKING OBJECTIVES or enemies SHOOTING AT FRIENDLIES, they choose to shoot the most useless enemy red ,camping with a MLT sniper rifle in ground level.

I mean you only have 4 jobs:

1-Protect objectives and choke points
2-Cover your frendlies while in fire fights
3-Counter snipe / take out enemy AV
4-Use mic to inform of enemy movements to your team

This is what you do:
1- Shoot at the enemy MCC
2-Steal kills from friendlies (like blue dot is in firefight,he has 95% HP and has red dot at 3% HP,you shoot at red) Thanks for the ''cover'' fire , 4ssh0le..
3-Get sniped in the face / eat FG in the face
4-Dont have mic and end the match 3-14

Then you ask why people dont care for snipers....

On another note, Proto suits get 1-2 shotted by good snipers so yes, Sniper rifles are good and powerful, you are the one that isnt.........