http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2h-VfDJy4

This is not a single incident. Ever since 1.4 was released, frame rate issues happen every game to at least 1-3 people.

Not sure what causes it tho

Edit: recorded from my phone. Sorry lol

This is edited footage! omg wut a hacker!

Hi,

I found that you played PC games several times on Oct. the 12th. Can you tell me which was the one in your video, or every PC battle you played dropped frame rate?

Thank you

...its a little creepy how the logs actually show things now

Hi,

I found that you played PC games several times on Oct. the 12th. Can you tell me which was the one in your video, or every PC battle you played dropped frame rate?

Thank you

Every battle that day had at least 1-3 people with this issue. Infact every PC battle has at least 1 person with the problem. I can't tell you which battle it was though.

It seems this happens EVERY TIME on the new Gallente research facility map and any city map more frequently.

Hi,

I found that you played PC games several times on Oct. the 12th. Can you tell me which was the one in your video, or every PC battle you played dropped frame rate?

Thank you

It is especially bad on the Gallente Research Facility. It has lag like that in public contracts.
I've encountered lag to the extent of the video on Orbital Artillery and Biomass Outposts every match.
I haven't run into the problem on the communications outpost, but I haven't seen that one in PC in a long time.

In Moiden heath poicie department versus ancient exiles, every battle drops below 25fps on the outside and below 10fps in the cities.

Is anything seriously in the works to address the lag in PC?

It lags so much in domination... stop the spam of uplinks please!!!

Yeah.. I think it's due to both sides lag switching

(Bump?)

"Lag switching" occurs from 2 factors,

1. hard drive seek errors where the drive has to re-read a sector x amounts of times to send the relevant xyz information of the players avatar to the server;
2. when a persons ping time is well over 200ms.

I have attempted to lag switch (as you guys call it?) and have not been able to recreate the issue at hand at all( i did when i had a bad HDD, i swapped for an ssd, problem solved, however when i tried to reuse the drive that had bad S.M.A.R.T errors on it, the ps3 rejected the drive, so suffice to say its not recreatable). despite my attempt at packet floods, purposefully causing collision based packet errors or header packet errors, ETC. It requires a bad HDD and a slow Network to even come close to recreating.. So, the question is, who would wana play a game where guys are moving around the map for 10 second intervals that are non responsive every 26 seconds, gets rubberbanded back to their original position, then suffers a loss because the server sees you as stagnant and not moving, just to get an edge?one that doesn't work in the end? Not me.


I have been able to recreate FPS issues using drop Uplinks, however; it affects both sides and usually is only triggered by the hosting party ( first group that enters PC matches, or first Squad leader into battle whos squad drops more then 4 uplinks that are concurrent.)

Lag switching? The term makes me laugh as a network engineer, however If I do find a way to recreate it, it gets reported and looked at very quickly, I assure you. However I have not been able to recreate it. If you know something we don't, do share so we can present it to the CPM's and have them forward it.

I'm not here to be a winner, I'm here to try and make the game better, and to have fun doing it, so if you see me killing you in some ungodly way, chances are i'm testing something and reporting it.

FOR SCIENCE!

I had literally one or two matches where it was serious lag, and I had no idea why. It was a pub match VS. about 12 D3LTA F0RC3s, and I was jumping all over the place. It was incredibly angering. I was trying to jump a railing and immediately I hear the sound of an HMG, and immediately I was dead.

Other than that though, I rarely get super bad framerate. Every once in a while I get a tiny lag spike if I'm sneaking up on someone with a Shotgun, but that's about it.

I stopped playing Dust, primarily because of this issue! I'm glad to hear that this POS game still have all the same bugs it had over a month ago.

I highly doubt it's lag switching. This abhorrent lag exists for just about everyone, and it doesn't seem to be network latency for the most part. Inside that Research Facility it feels like I'm running sub-30 frames per second the ENTIRE TIME. It's a nightmare to try and even play.

Is anything seriously in the works to address the lag in PC? It's existed like this in varying severity of course since PC was introduced. You can't honestly expect us to keep playing PC like this and just deal with it? I'm amazed at myself for even dealing with it.

For reference -

10 Months ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTVIChCepvs

8 Months ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V17grt9ijrs

6 Months ago -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKlGMq-QA8w

JUST A WEEK AGO -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxip2n9VXjo

I Urge you to watch the last one. CCP your game has game breaking bugs and issues.


EDIT - Can we get any confirmation if people with SSD or Upgraded / big buffer fast 7200+ rpm hdd have this same issue?

People have been saying upgrading to SSD removes this issue, standard slow hdd may be the issue. OR rather the issue is that the game is simply asking too much of the system.

Nope. I run an SSD and lag just as bad if not worse in games. It's all framerate lag which has to be an issue with a bottleneck occurring with one of these: main RAM, video RAM, CPU, or GPU.

My bet is the memory. The PS3 has 256MB main RAM and 256MB VRAM. Consider for a second that 256 MB is nothing in terms of modern specs. The PS4 for example has 8GB of integrated GDDR5 RAM, meaning system and video RAM is shared coupled with the fact that the memory itself is WAY faster. That's 16x more memory on top of the CPU and GPU accessing it way faster.

Sony realized their mistake and corrected it with the PS4, which disappoints me even more in regards to their "laser-focus" on the PS3. This game will not make any leaps and bounds in terms of gameplay or visual detail on the PS3, and the lag will continue to persist drawing more and more people away from PC and this game in general.

The problem is that people carry on like its all good. All ccp sees on the forums for the most part is how epic the wars are and GG messages so its no wonder pc has remained this broken for so damn long.

If people had standards as well then ccp would see pc being fixed as a priority but no, people carry on with 'gg bro' and rubbish like 'epic war' when its a pile of laggy trash, get standards people, then it might get fixed.

Edit: lol get standards on a dust topic *self facepalm*

Hi, thank you for contacting us.

Confirmed with the Dev Team. We will investigate the data after 1.7 is deployed.

Thank you.

Hi, thank you for contacting us.

Confirmed with the Dev Team. We will investigate the data after 1.7 is deployed.

Thank you.

I know man I feel your pain. I cant believe it has not even be remotely addressed. Its a ******* game breaking issue. I guess because some people are not affected, its not an issue...

Look at those videos! Its been going on ever since I started playing, and not one thing has been done to address the issue! Ah well I have tried to help but there's no point.

I'll go back to my PS1 emulator, having loads of fun! :) Trying to get a version of Legacy of Kain - Soul Reaver to work. It seems some PS1 games had some rudimentary anti piracy systems. I wouldnt be using an enmulator is my ps1 still woked!

I tell you what though HD 1080p uprated ps1 games look kinda nice!

I got ff7 :)

I forgot how awkwardly heartfelt and soft some of the cut scenes are lol.

Oh man it has been a long time since I played a Final Fantasy. I got Metal Gear Solid, I remember it being ground breaking when I first played it. It REALLY shows its age now, but the gameplay is still spot on, as is the story.

You know, "lines" for a mouth, "Black small smudges" for eyes! Ahh how things have progressed. I remember FF characters having like rolling pins for arms right? haha.

Hi, thank you for contacting us.

Confirmed with the Dev Team. We will investigate the data after 1.7 is deployed.

Thank you.