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Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 368	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F***ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.)
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2198	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:34:00 - [2] - Quote HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3831	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. I'd say it's more of a problem with the dispersion and range of the HMG - it does sufficiently dominate at close range, but the dispersion/range problems it has means that it has great trouble applying that damage effectively to anything more than a few metres away.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 182	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:39:00 - [4] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2200	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:53:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. I'd say it's more of a problem with the dispersion and range of the HMG - it does sufficiently dominate at close range, but the dispersion/range problems it has means that it has great trouble applying that damage effectively to anything more than a few metres away. Perhaps make it so that HMG becomes more accurate faster? Increase accuracy rate by 15% and damage by 7%. Thoughts?
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2200	Posted - 2013.10.12 20:56:00 - [6] - Quote Bethhy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit. Any decent heavy player will find the nearest available cover to shoot from, then proceed to chop heads off.
Goro Scornshard DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.10.12 21:19:00 - [7] - Quote Recently skilled into HMG, if it's better at short range would you recommend it mainly for city maps?
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 788	Posted - 2013.10.12 21:19:00 - [8] - Quote Using the HMG, I'm pretty sure that it's the dispersion that makes it so dumb... why? Sometimes, aiming (ADS) at a close, stationary target, you get the kill almost instantly but, when the target is strafing, you barely do any damage. ADS reduces dispersion and the target doesn't move, so finally you're really hitting with the HMG and... magic! The whole HP bar melts in a split second. This is a proof that the HMG has the appropriated RPM and damage potential to kill people really quickly, but the dispersion is so terrible that sometimes you just tickle your enemies. I would try reducing the dispersion sensibly and see the change.
Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 788	Posted - 2013.10.12 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote Goro Scornshard wrote: Recently skilled into HMG, if it's better at short range would you recommend it mainly for city maps? Yes, I would.
Kaze Eyrou Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 368	Posted - 2013.10.12 21:23:00 - [10] - Quote I love how no one clicked my link and missed my sarcasm.

Nick nugg3t United Universe Corp 175	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:31:00 - [11] - Quote . . . . . they need tracer rounds.... yes do it. 0.0
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1697	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:36:00 - [12] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F*ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.) Boundless with Cx dam mods gets me if i get too close.But then again a weapon is UP if you need to use its Proto Version + Prof + Cx dam mods to get kills....**
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1188	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:41:00 - [13] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. When you crouch you will be amazed at how much faster you die... unless shooting at a militia suit
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1188	Posted - 2013.10.12 22:53:00 - [14] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F***ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.) Dont forget about this minigun that fires 4000 rounds per minute
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1188	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:04:00 - [15] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Bethhy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit. Any decent heavy player will find the nearest available cover to shoot from, then proceed to chop heads off. Most decent HMG heavy players just switched to assault suits with ARs
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1188	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:06:00 - [16] - Quote Replace the skill that reduces recoil with a reduction of dispersion by 5% per level. Then give it AR range. Leaving all else equal, it will be good again.
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 115	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:06:00 - [17] - Quote RL HMGs are used to chew through fortified positions, in dust its a 60 kilogram CQC weapon. I hope its range get some serious buff soon.
Slag Emberforge Immortal Retribution 17	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:15:00 - [18] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Bethhy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit. Any decent heavy player will find the nearest available cover to shoot from, then proceed to chop heads off. Most decent HMG heavy players just switched to assault suits with ARs +1 although I have many different fittings, I use a heavy/AR in many maps if it isn't a tight well covered area.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 442	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:33:00 - [19] - Quote Make the operations skill reduce spread by 3-4% per level
Borne Velvalor BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY 43	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:35:00 - [20] - Quote StG 44 (WWII) AR effective range in real life: 300m. M4A1 AR effective range in real life: 500m. MG 42 (WWII) HMG effective range in real life: 1000m. M134 Minigun/HMG effective range in real life: 1000m. AR effective range in game: 62.5m. HMG effective range in game: 49m. Of course, it doesn't really matter which one has a higher range in real life; all that matters is the balance of the game. It's still pretty funny though.

XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4704	Posted - 2013.10.12 23:41:00 - [21] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Bethhy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit. Any decent heavy player will find the nearest available cover to shoot from, then proceed to chop heads off. Most decent HMG heavy players just switched to assault suits with ARs Your not a heavy anymore,and I'm still here
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 119	Posted - 2013.10.13 00:50:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. I'd say it's more of a problem with the dispersion and range of the HMG - it does sufficiently dominate at close range, but the dispersion/range problems it has means that it has great trouble applying that damage effectively to anything more than a few metres away. exactly
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 1189	Posted - 2013.10.14 06:59:00 - [23] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: D legendary hero wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Bethhy wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: HMG's need a buff, but it's not as bad as people think. First off, crouch. When you crouch, you will be amazed how much more accurate it will be. I think they need a slight damage buff. Maybe 5%, maybe 8. Yes I love when heavies crouch... makes their fat head's stationary and even easier to hit. Any decent heavy player will find the nearest available cover to shoot from, then proceed to chop heads off. Most decent HMG heavy players just switched to assault suits with ARs Your not a heavy anymore,and I'm still here I still have all my proto heavy stuff and my 10+million SP in it. I just used the remaining 3millioin SP on dropships and ARs. Guess what I use now?...lol
Rei Shepard Spectre II 677	Posted - 2013.10.14 07:36:00 - [24] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F***ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.) Can i get my Scrambler rifle to fire for more then 60-75m then ? like 350-500m with pin-point accuracy ?
Borne Velvalor BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY 678	Posted - 2013.10.14 07:51:00 - [25] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F***ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.) Can i get my Scrambler rifle to fire for more then 60-75m then ? like 350-500m with pin-point accuracy ? There's a difference between wanting to lower the bullet dispersion by maybe 20% and making the gun's accuracy improve faster than actually improving the range. Improving the optimal range exponentially increases your DPS compared to the old range the further you get from the target. Instead of doing 50% you're doing 100% still, 25% is still 100%, etcetera. Lowering the dispersion would just increase the amount of bullets actually hitting targets 10, 20 meters outside of optimal range. A 350m Scrambler would slaughter everything, everywhere. A lower dispersion HMG would actually be able to hit stuff with some frequency within its already desired effective range. It's not uncommon for me to be 50m away from a Heavy and have half of its bullets just plain miss.
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 120	Posted - 2013.10.14 11:35:00 - [26] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh sorry.... I meant IN REAL F***ING LIFE... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkEmM2V9BQ Meanwhile the HMGs in Dust try to represent Machine Guns back in the days of Doom.... -.- So when will the HMGs get buffed by a century? I mean 2000 RPM in game? 3000 RPM in RL? Did we step back or something? Also, before you point me to the Burst, what's the overheat on that? Now what's the "overheat" on the M-134? What's that? I can't hear you..... STILL FIRING..... -.- (Disclaimer: Not an HMG user, but most of the community laugh at them now.) The MG34(WW2) Light machinegun was actually too accurate so the germans nerfed it. The MG1's that used it was so skilled with the machinegun they could lob single bullets over hills, and use the gun as a sniper rifle/mortar.
trraacx DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2013.10.14 12:22:00 - [27] - Quote I die a lot, I don't remember the last time that it was due to a HMG. (not entirely true, I've foolishly tried to 1v1 one them on occasion and lost) I think that says a lot about how useless they have become.


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