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General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:34:00 -
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Opinions? Who wins? |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
604
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:37:00 -
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depends which one is used and who shoots first. |
Knight Soiaire
Rent-A-Taxi
2527
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:38:00 -
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Also depends on what suit the SCR is going up against. |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
630
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:40:00 -
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Scrambler rifle will win in a straight fight since it has that initial sniper rifle charged damage. Add in some damage modifiers and its pretty deadly. Hardest fight I ever had to experience was trying to take out 2 proto ScrR users who basically 2 shot me (1 charged shot each) in a split second. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
430
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:46:00 -
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I have proto with lvl3 pro on both
I think their both winners 
ASCR is my favorite |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2205
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:48:00 -
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They are both good at their respective ranges.
However the AScR beats the AR hands down in accuracy. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles
405
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:49:00 -
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SR wins that one. and i dont even have proto SR yet. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1716
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:50:00 -
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Right now ? i say the Assault SCR kicks the ass of the AR.
I just find curious how everyone is complaining about the AR and ignoring the SCR. Is almost like because it doesn't look like an "Assault Rifle", it is ok for it to be a "good" weapon.
BTW, i don't think the SCR needs any nerfing. |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1130
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:54:00 -
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ScR wins IF all shots hit.
If not, then you OH, and the AR then spews bullets killing you.
IF all shots don't hit, then the AR wins. Their gun doesn't lock up when you reload (sort of an ScR OH equivalent), so that's that. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2857
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Posted - 2013.10.11 21:59:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Opinions? Who wins?
ScR only because I like Amarrian Goodies. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3817
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:12:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Right now ? i say the Assault SCR kicks the ass of the AR.
I just find curious how everyone is complaining about the AR and ignoring the SCR. Is almost like because it doesn't look like an "Assault Rifle", it is ok for it to be a "good" weapon.
BTW, i don't think the SCR needs any nerfing.
It's the nerf brigade claiming that their nerf target was the nerf brigade all along and it's 'justice'. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
380
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:17:00 -
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SCR because with it I can OHK any assault. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1398
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:20:00 -
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The proto AScR is pretty dang beast with two damage mods. Eats through shields like a maniac and does just fine with armor too. With two damage mods it compares to a Duvolle with no damage mods. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1959
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:22:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Opinions? Who wins?
Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock.
Too many variables, including:
Who sees who first
SP total in skills that impact weapon choice
Type of dropsuit
SP total in dropsuit relevant skills
Fitting on dropsuit
SP total in module relevant skills
Who has faster reaction times
Who has better hand eye coordination
...
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etc |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
597
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:23:00 -
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Carthum v Duvolle?
Carthum. In CQC duvolle |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
421
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:44:00 -
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Imperial FTW! |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
193
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:53:00 -
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Imperial all the way. They don't call me Darth for nothing, after all |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
555
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Posted - 2013.10.11 22:54:00 -
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Even in CQC, a Scrambler can beat an AR. |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
605
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:06:00 -
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anyways i think SR is better ,in one week using SR increased kd by .80 not that it matters but yea |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
326
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Posted - 2013.10.11 23:38:00 -
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SCR out performs TAC AR any day in all cases and many for the basic AR, while the ASCR out performs the basic AR in all but range and recoil.
This is just my humble opinion though, not saying the AR is bad, far from it. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1824
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Posted - 2013.10.12 02:25:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Right now ? i say the Assault SCR kicks the ass of the AR.
I just find curious how everyone is complaining about the AR and ignoring the SCR. Is almost like because it doesn't look like an "Assault Rifle", it is ok for it to be a "good" weapon.
BTW, i don't think the SCR needs any nerfing.
ASCR has a drawback that the AR does not have.
Basically, the recoil of the ASCR is enough that it knocks the aim assist off kilter. The recoil of AR is nearly non existent by the time its fully trained, so the aim assist hugs the target and stays on the target, giving it more consistent DPS. |
Clips A'hoy
The Generals
EoN.
46
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Posted - 2013.10.12 02:49:00 -
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Imperial ScR =/= Duvolle AR...
I think it's somewhat obvious who would win the challenge. **cough** ScR **cough** |
Borne Velvalor
BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY
41
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:02:00 -
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A skilled user with a Scrambler generally has an advantage. The original burst and a larger headshot modifier help. It seems like its harder to use the Scrambler effectively, though. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1294
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Posted - 2013.10.12 05:47:00 -
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They used to be even if all other things were equal.
Now with aim assist, it's def ASR |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers
EoN.
3264
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Posted - 2013.10.12 07:03:00 -
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Lol thanks. I have all my core skills and 800k unused sp... Now I know what weapon I am getting next . I just wanted to make sure if it would be the right move by what the community thought about it. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
1043
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Posted - 2013.10.12 12:35:00 -
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I run Assault Scrambler rifle all the time and the only players I end up being downed by in a firefight are those running assault rifles.
No matter if I'm close to them or at 50 meters, I always seem to get torn up by them like my armor means nothing.
In a long firefight though, the scrambler has more ammo per clip..and also fires at a slightly slower rate. So if you preserve your ammo and can survive long enough for them to have to reload, you win. Scrambler also has a faster reload time.
The reason why the Scrambler isn't annoyingly deadly like the AR is because it has a hard time chewing through thick layers of armor, and it actually has some dispersion when ADS-ing unlinke the AR. The carthum ASCR seems to be much more accurate than the adv version, but still not dead on like the duvolle.
Also, if you are caught by someone with a duvolle and some damage mods you're done. By the time you aim your weapon at the person firing your health is half gone and you have less than a second to either kill them or run away. Getting caught by someone with a scrambler means that you still have a chance (especially if you have more armor), as your shields might instantly go down but they'll have to slowly make their way through your armor. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
757
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:06:00 -
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The Imperial Scrambler is THE 1v1 weapon, AR might ask for a quick death if anything and the Scrambler is most likely going to fulfill its request :P
Source: The infinite amount of AR users I vaporized with the Impreial (1v1). |
Stevez WingYip
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:23:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Opinions? Who wins?
Usually the AR. But if skill is taken into consideration, the SR can outplay the AR hard with cover. |
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