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Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1449	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:33:00 - [1] - Quote Dear community Are you tired of being revived only to die within nanoseconds? Do you feel some players are abusing the nanite injector for WPs? Then speak your mind now for the revival acceptance. I want the option to accept the revive. I'm tired of getting revived in a hot zone. Some are genuine in their efforts but others I feel abuse the nanite. I can't see it no other way when I watched a merc dance thru gunfire without firing a shot, revive me, I instantly die and he does it all again for a Groundhog Day revival horror show. And it carries on for another 5 times. I was infuriated! Sound off mercs!!! The nanite abuse gotta stop!! The accept revival option is the only way!!!
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 111	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote Sometimes that extra grenade or bullet that puts you down is an act of mercy. You're welcome.
da GAND High-Damage Public Disorder. 266	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:25:00 - [3] - Quote yes plz put this s*** in the game
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 595	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:26:00 - [4] - Quote I'm a logi and I approve this message.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 423	Posted - 2013.10.11 20:41:00 - [5] - Quote I was once picked up and somehow was forced inside of a wall. Unable to move. No grenades. Nothing could hit me. I sat there in my purgatory-like hell and thought: "If I could only have denied that pickup... if only..." I did the only merciful thing I could think of. Suicide option. ... Then, for some ungodly ******* reason, somehow, I was picked up again. I left the game. I turned my system off after adjusting my fittings. I still have nightmares...
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1453	Posted - 2013.10.11 23:18:00 - [6] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: Sometimes that extra grenade or bullet that puts you down is an act of mercy. You're welcome. Sometimes the weak speaks in a outburst of ignorant thoughts because they posses no iron will to maintain tact, dignity, strength and perseverance on and off the battlefield. You're welcome
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1453	Posted - 2013.10.11 23:20:00 - [7] - Quote Hopefully they can implement this sometime in the future. I'm not expecting immediate results but I would like to see this option in Dust. It helps. Cause honestly some folks only think about the revive or the WPs they get for doing so. They don't concern themselves with clearing out the area. Or maybe a heavy is waiting in a corner. Or that scrambler rifle user just smiling while he watches the reviver stab his downed victim. Oddly enough, they can only revive but not rep, which in my eyes, nullifies the revive in itself.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 555	Posted - 2013.10.11 23:21:00 - [8] - Quote I rarely do this, but when I do, it's just to be a ****
Clips A'hoy The Generals EoN. 46	Posted - 2013.10.12 02:52:00 - [9] - Quote Agreed. Or we can also say that the person who revived the individual should not get the points if the person dies within the next 6 seconds, that simple. And at that he'll be exposed and get shot.
Borne Velvalor BLACK-DRAGON-SOCIETY 41	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:00:00 - [10] - Quote Yes. Maybe then, we'll have less bad logistics players giving logistics players as a whole a bad name.

Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 62	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:02:00 - [11] - Quote WAHHH MY KDR IS FALLING BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP ME....WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1459	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:07:00 - [12] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: WAHHH MY KDR IS FALLING BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP ME....WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Obviously you didn't read my OP and comprehend what I'm saying. If you can't comprehend what I'm saying please refrain yourself from knee jerking. This isn't about my KDR Einstein.
Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 62	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:09:00 - [13] - Quote You know what I do. I shoot the corpse. No revives for you. Because clone terminated. People that ***** about being revived are stupid. Only thinking about themselves and not the team. Everytime I die and I see there is a nano in proximity I ride out the timer hoping to get stuck. I get 30 seconds to hit my cigarette, sip my beer and if you get to me, get right back into the fight. KDR is dumb in an objective game. This is domination, not counter strike. Until PC matches are decided by Ambush, screw KDR. It doesn't matter.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1459	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:12:00 - [14] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: You know what I do. I shoot the corpse. No revives for you. Because clone terminated. People that ***** about being revived are stupid. Only thinking about themselves and not the team. Everytime I die and I see there is a nano in proximity I ride out the timer hoping to get stuck. I get 30 seconds to hit my cigarette, sip my beer and if you get to me, get right back into the fight. KDR is dumb in an objective game. This is domination, not counter strike. Until PC matches are decided by Ambush, screw KDR. It doesn't matter. Mr. Rocket Scientist, just what in god's name are you talking about? You're all over the place I was revived 6 times without any power to stop the reviver from stopping a perilous pursuit of WPs and also helping the other team gain multiple kills which also assisted the team in gaining a precision. Go to bed, you're drunk and not offering anything constructive to my thread...
Sarcastic Dreamkiller I Play Solo 34	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:17:00 - [15] - Quote I think we should also be able to notify nearby Logi's when we die.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1459	Posted - 2013.10.12 03:18:00 - [16] - Quote Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote: I think we should also be able to notify nearby Logi's when we die. The "help requested" is supposed to do that job. I don't know how its received on the logi end. I don't recall seeing any significant notification when I do logi...
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 146	Posted - 2013.11.04 22:25:00 - [17] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Sarcastic Dreamkiller wrote: I think we should also be able to notify nearby Logi's when we die. The "help requested" is supposed to do that job. I don't know how its received on the logi end. I don't recall seeing any significant notification when I do logi... It blinks the revive icon, but doesn't seem to have any affect on revivability. Michael Arck wrote: Sometimes the weak speaks in a outburst of ignorant thoughts because they posses no iron will to maintain tact, dignity, strength and perseverance on and off the battlefield. That's pretty good, you should put that in your signature.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 414	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:03:00 - [18] - Quote Yes I would like this option. I don't even mind if the other person gets the 60 WP for the attempt. However, once you have refused once you can no longer be revived and no one else gets 60 WP for revival attempts in the short time remaining before your clone burns, to avoid WP spamming.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 606	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:06:00 - [19] - Quote Yes. Make it to where you have to call for help to be revived. Problem solved Revive Repair Resupply & Team Spawn (It's what I do)
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:14:00 - [20] - Quote I don't think there should be "accept revival", it sounds unnecessarily complicated and time consuming. I think it's better if you can only be picked up if you press the call for help. If you don't call for help, you simply cannot be picked up. EDIT: what Atiim said above, didn't see your post before posting mine so +1 .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.

Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 776	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:16:00 - [21] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: WAHHH MY KDR IS FALLING BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP ME....WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I care minimally about my KD/R Real reason why I hate it? It's annoying as hell! "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1772	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:16:00 - [22] - Quote Remove WP for revival, triple WP cap for repairing. Logibros will have to think about revives because the only way they get WP is when both of you survive and get to safety. > "I will show you fear in a handful of dust." T.S. Eliot, The Wasteland
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3024	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:22:00 - [23] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: WAHHH MY KDR IS FALLING BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP ME....WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Its not only that. It makes it take longer to spawn in, and the blueberry running out most likely gets killed too, losing you two clones, instead of one. Its selfish play, and it needs to be dealt with. Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper!
KrazyEyeKilla The Phalanx Inc 27	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:26:00 - [24] - Quote Completely agree with OP.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 758	Posted - 2013.11.04 23:34:00 - [25] - Quote Sleepy Shadow wrote: I don't think there should be "accept revival", it sounds unnecessarily complicated and time consuming. I think it's better if you can only be picked up if you press the call for help. If you don't call for help, you simply cannot be picked up. EDIT: what Atiim said above, didn't see your post before posting mine so +1 Sleepy, what does your signature say? [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] Burner of faces. The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered.
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.11.05 09:40:00 - [26] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Sleepy Shadow wrote: I don't think there should be "accept revival", it sounds unnecessarily complicated and time consuming. I think it's better if you can only be picked up if you press the call for help. If you don't call for help, you simply cannot be picked up. EDIT: what Atiim said above, didn't see your post before posting mine so +1 Sleepy, what does your signature say? Sleepy Shadow - fully qualified scrub .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 137	Posted - 2013.11.05 09:43:00 - [27] - Quote UNTIL revivals stop counting as deaths then i would rather die then get revived EVER! FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1750	Posted - 2013.11.05 09:56:00 - [28] - Quote It wasn't until recently that I learned revives are 60 WPs. No wonder they are reviving me with any quarrels now. It's shame that I'm racing against the reviver when I'm locating a got spawn location to deploy from. I see that needle and somewhere the mission impossible theme music comes on.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1244	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:17:00 - [29] - Quote These days when I see blues falling round about me I just run around blueballing as many as I can before I get shot. iv even had games whare the reds don't shoot at me but just pound the blues that im sticking if only it told the victim that it was me bluballing then I might get some more love letters. Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1244	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:22:00 - [30] - Quote I also think I should add to this discussion. if the nanite injector came with say another piece of equipment like a deployable force field that the logi could deploy just before sticking you thusly enabeling your escape?? good idea bad idea ?? Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior

Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 71	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:31:00 - [31] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I also think I should add to this discussion. if the nanite injector came with say another piece of equipment like a deployable force field that the logi could deploy just before sticking you thusly enabeling your escape?? good idea bad idea ?? I thought that was once discussed with (or from?) CCP. Shield that keeps you safe but you cannot shoot out of it either. I wouldnGÇÖt oppose an idea where needles need a refill, just like ammo or grenades. LetGÇÖs say you have 10/20/30 revives (STD/ADV/PRO) and then you either need a hive or a supply depot. .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 109	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:33:00 - [32] - Quote They don't need to change anything about the game. They just need to give an IQ test before your allowed to play. That would cut the playerbase in half though. Stupid blue dots.
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 331	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:33:00 - [33] - Quote We already tried call for revive. It confused new players and wasn't implemented clearly. Changes that'll help this system are less UI dicking around on death (slow fade out, slow fade in, death icon buried in a pile of irrelevant map info, stuttering on revival etc.) and immediate access to either pulling the plug on your clone or calling for assistance. There is no way a refusal option should be added because for all the blueberry incompetence you complain of, you're the one lying on the floor unable to get up. You do not get priority. Die or take your chances.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3568	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:40:00 - [34] - Quote Not even near a priority. The only thing it damages is your KDR, which is meaningless. It doesn't cost you extra ISK. It gives their team 50 points but your team 60 so you get closer to an orbital. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense why it'd need to be a priority. If anything, you should argue for the death not to count until you are terminated. But again, not a priority. Amarr faithful, join PIE Inc, the oldest EVE/Dust Amarr loyal corporation! Amarr Victor!
Eris Ernaga DUST University Ivy League 645	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:41:00 - [35] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Dear community Are you tired of being revived only to die within nanoseconds? Do you feel some players are abusing the nanite injector for WPs? Then speak your mind now for the revival acceptance. I want the option to accept the revive. I'm tired of getting revived in a hot zone. Some are genuine in their efforts but others I feel abuse the nanite. I can't see it no other way when I watched a merc dance thru gunfire without firing a shot, revive me, I instantly die and he does it all again for a Groundhog Day revival horror show. And it carries on for another 5 times. I was infuriated! Sound off mercs!!! The nanite abuse gotta stop!! The accept revival option is the only way!!! How about the suicide option kills you when you're down instead of waiting for you to select a new spawn point on the map to terminate your clone. Ba bang baby
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1754	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:44:00 - [36] - Quote Snaps Tremor wrote: We already tried call for revive. It confused new players and wasn't implemented clearly. Changes that'll help this system are less UI dicking around on death (slow fade out, slow fade in, death icon buried in a pile of irrelevant map info, stuttering on revival etc.) and immediate access to either pulling the plug on your clone or calling for assistance. There is no way a refusal option should be added because for all the blueberry incompetence you complain of, you're the one lying on the floor unable to get up. You do not get priority. Die or take your chances. You know, whenever the ignorant speaks, they speak only from their subjective experience. And due to the anonymity, they also like to find the opportunity to ridicule as if their "wisdom", granted enlightenment when none was there. Unfortunately, their stupidity keeps them from seeing the whole picture. We die in this game. And sometimes, some fool just wishes to revive a downed mercenary just to get 60 WPs. I've watched enemy infantry revive their guys in the middle of a firefight. I laugh and take out the reviver and then the revived. Is he doing it to revive the player for the benefit of team or solely for himself? Even so, his action to revive in a crossfire is not wise and does more to hurt the team than to assist. So to suggest to my thread, my carefully thought out thread, that my problem lies in the fact that I have died on the battlefield is quite utterly absurd and only reveals your lack of intelligence when dealing with this matter. Reading comprehension goes a long way...and you have failed greatly.
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 331	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:46:00 - [37] - Quote You must be fun at parties.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 396	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:47:00 - [38] - Quote no "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1755	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:57:00 - [39] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Not even near a priority. The only thing it damages is your KDR, which is meaningless. It doesn't cost you extra ISK. It gives their team 50 points but your team 60 so you get closer to an orbital. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense why it'd need to be a priority. If anything, you should argue for the death not to count until you are terminated. But again, not a priority. But we aren't talking about my KDR! Do I have to really explain the ins and outs of this problem? Okay, the ones who are doing the reviving are assault players mostly. That's wrong from the start. So that means they have the means to only revive. If the assault player has a nanite injector, we can bet our metal asses that isn't to better the team or to help. It's solely because the WPs gained for each revive is equal to a headshot kill. The average player on Dust is not team oriented. Especially when you're dealing with a bunch of blueberries. So of course, 60 points for a revive is quite tempting be as though many folks die and die alot in New Eden. It's the same mentality that goes into why people put nanohives right next to Supply Depots. Is it to better the team? Yea, you can say yes and give me that "we are working to get a orbital" crap or we can deal with reality and say that mercenaries like to WP hoard. Why else are folks upset about Logi players beating them to the top of the list when they have higher kills? It's all about WPs. Next thing we need to look at is the clone count and momentum shifts. Every clone count is significant. Of course some gets spoiled and are nothing more than cannon fodder for the reds. The fact remains though, in a close battle, clone count is the leverage that can change the entire game. Why hack objective Alpha when all we need to do is extinguish the rest of their clones before they destroy our MCC? Simple. If guys are reviving in the middle of the firefight, they are essentially helping the other team gain 60 WPs along with what they are gaining. Which in turn, fuels the orbital bombardment run. Which also equals, a decimated team. Plus the momentum shifts. We all (or at least most) have seen this in college football where one critical play changes the very outcome of the game. Providing a target for the reds to constantly kill while you dance around to revive the downed alley again increases the momentum of the other team. When this comes into play, now you have to fight not only the team but you have to work to destroy their momentum. It's the snowball effect. So how about that I don't want to give them 50 points for easy deaths? I don't care that some ***** gets 60 WPs for an orbital he might not even obtain on his squad or solo. We are essentially giving the other team momentum and essentially we gave them 6 clones, more or less, to feed off of. In war, you don't give the enemy anything for your own selfish goals. It does more than damage the KDR and the KDR isn't the reason for this discussion!!**
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1755	Posted - 2013.11.05 10:59:00 - [40] - Quote Snaps Tremor wrote: You must be fun at parties. Why yes I am, Everlast. Yes I am



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