DUST Search - Why is the Easiest role in Dust rewarded the most?

ReGnYuM wrote:

Skihids wrote:

ReGnYuM wrote:

bethany valvetino wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

You're a ****ing idiot!

I wanted to attack this **** head verbally.. sadly this statement sums up my thoughts 100%

firstly, logistic is not the easiet role on the battle field and secondly it is almost certainly the most useful... also someone made a good point, that when you are in a good team you make a lot less wp.

"prick" is the word that most sums up my thoughts on you.

Funny how garbage is all talk on the forums.

CCP please note how Logi noobs come out in droves to protect their easymode WP system. All I am asking is to level the playing field and give slayers a better opportunity to earn WP.

Heres my question valvetino

Who contributed more in that 50 kill Ambush game. Me going 29-0 with 1885 WP, or the Logi Bro going 4-15 with 1810 WP

Why don't you ask your former teammates? Obviously some of them were using the Logis equipment and they found it useful.

Amazing, easy mode behavior of passively gaining WP through Logi must of stunned your ability to answer simple questions

Who contributed more?


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Skihids Bullet Cluster 2260	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:14:00 - [1] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Except it's not. Logis get next to nothing when you're winning by a landslide, slayers get all the WP. If Logis are getting alot of WP, slayers just need to get better. This is the truth. I get the most WPs when my support is being used. A constant fight over a heavily contested objective with dead slayers coming back on my uplinks and using my hives to keep shooting. I'm only getting points because slayers find my support useful. The equipment doesn't use itself. Somone has to benefit from it before I get any points. Redline the other team and you don't need my support. Great for you. Get redline yourself and maybe the arc line of uplinks I dropped behind the enemy lines will let you restart the fight. It's nice that you are a one-man army who can do it all by himself, but some of your fellow slayers seem to appreciate the assistance. You use the objective free mode of Ambush for your example. Yes, brain dead goal of "shoot more face" doesn't call for as much support. Why should it? The goal of "kill more" can be acomplished with DPS alone. When you attempt game modes wtih objecives other than simply "kill more", you see logistics enter the picture. Who knows, in a few years you might even be using vehiclular transport. It's so childish for a slayer who has his KDR stat cry about wanting the larger share of the WPs too.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2260	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:16:00 - [2] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: bethany valvetino wrote: Cosgar wrote: You're a **ing idiot! I wanted to attack this ** head verbally.. sadly this statement sums up my thoughts 100% firstly, logistic is not the easiet role on the battle field and secondly it is almost certainly the most useful... also someone made a good point, that when you are in a good team you make a lot less wp. "prick" is the word that most sums up my thoughts on you. Funny how garbage is all talk on the forums. CCP please note how Logi noobs come out in droves to protect their easymode WP system. All I am asking is to level the playing field and give slayers a better opportunity to earn WP. Heres my question valvetino Who contributed more in that 50 kill Ambush game. Me going 29-0 with 1885 WP, or the Logi Bro going 4-15 with 1810 WP Why don't you ask your former teammates? Obviously some of them were using the Logis equipment and they found it useful.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2262	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:08:00 - [3] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Skihids wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: bethany valvetino wrote: Cosgar wrote: You're a **ing idiot! I wanted to attack this ** head verbally.. sadly this statement sums up my thoughts 100% firstly, logistic is not the easiet role on the battle field and secondly it is almost certainly the most useful... also someone made a good point, that when you are in a good team you make a lot less wp. "prick" is the word that most sums up my thoughts on you. Funny how garbage is all talk on the forums. CCP please note how Logi noobs come out in droves to protect their easymode WP system. All I am asking is to level the playing field and give slayers a better opportunity to earn WP. Heres my question valvetino Who contributed more in that 50 kill Ambush game. Me going 29-0 with 1885 WP, or the Logi Bro going 4-15 with 1810 WP Why don't you ask your former teammates? Obviously some of them were using the Logis equipment and they found it useful. Amazing, easy mode behavior of passively gaining WP through Logi must of stunned your ability to answer simple questions Who contributed more? If I earn more WPs than you, by CCP's definition I contributed more. Now it's a touch more complicated than that as it requires human analysis of who the MPV is in a given game. Who did you shoot, and did it prevent an enemy hack or was it just a useless redberry standing around? Did my uplinks get you behind the enemy lines where you could flank them, or was it dropped underneath our MCC? CCP will be adding more WP rewards for strategic kills such as killing a hacker in future updates, so you will see some of that counted. The goal is to give WP's for actions that advance the win. Trigger pullers are the most obvious, but far from the only contributors. Your use of the word "lazy" bespeaks your complete lack of knowledge of the efforts required to properly support. I can spend half the match running back and forth from a backline SD to the front to place the right equipment in the best spots while a slayer simply stands in one small area shooting at whoever happens by. Who is lazy then? Slinging insults is childish. So is demanding all the attention and the biggest slice of cake. If DUST is to ever advance beyond TDM and become the game it promised to be there will be plenty of important roles other than slayer and all will be crucial to the win.
Skihids Bullet Cluster 2263	Posted - 2013.10.12 00:37:00 - [4] - Quote A poster did make a good point about removing the equipment slot from assault suits. Six assault players have six slots between them making a Logi redundant. Assaults are designed for slaying and don't really have room or fitting left over for huge ammo hives. To create a real need for Logis the assault should lose the equipment slot and get mor slaying capability in return.