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RevoL Frog
The Generals EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:02:00 -
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I will let this sit here until tomorrow, at which time I will make an official thread here on these forums as an official call to correct this situation ...that is step one in this procedure.
Hopefully this can be remedied peacefully.
Good night. |
Derrith Erador
Pradox One
220
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:04:00 -
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RevoL Frog wrote:Pradox One, your decision was a rash maneuver.
I'd like to impress I am but a simple knight, and I do in fact support subsonic get a district. But again, not my decision. But if he does relinquish the district, I get to sing this song upon the releasing of our land. |
RevoL Frog
The Generals EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:16:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:RevoL Frog wrote:Pradox One, your decision was a rash maneuver. I'd like to impress I am but a simple knight, and I do in fact support subsonic get a district. But again, not my decision. But if he does relinquish the district, I get to sing this song upon the releasing of our land. I like you Derrith, and I like Pradox One, but you guys made an incorrect decision, and have broken PFC rules.
I know it was a multi-faceted, complicated situation, but if logic was followed it only led to one conclusion.
I was hoping, as the evidence made plainly clear, that you guys would return the district back to Subsonic, but for whatever reason that action was not followed.
Now further action may be necessary. |
RevoL Frog
The Generals EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:49:00 -
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Pradox One must right their wrong, and they have two options- They can either get PRO to peacefully hand over the District to Subsonic, or they can do it by force.
If you fail to correct your violation, then a coalition force from PFC will be assembled to remove you from your district in order to give it to Subsonic Synthetics.
Again, logic dictates this situation. I believe this is fair. Be thankful that you have options. |
RevoL Frog
The Generals EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:52:00 -
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I want the guys in PRO to know that this is nothing personal against them ...this time anyways. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1131
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Posted - 2013.10.12 04:34:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Hawkin P wrote:How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
Is your district full yet?
Can we give you some clones to help the district fill up faster?
Will CBJ be there? Lol.. Well break us in gently ey!? We do not mind a few friendly skirms with you guys at all, Heck bring your D team, I mean A, actually is it G team? Forget how many guys you took from PRO. And CBJ will not be attending, it's a chance for some of the PRO guys who haven't ever experienced PC to fight.
Molon Labe was PRO. Alpha fought every single battle we had....until Joe decided to make us fight the Battle of the 300 Million. |
Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthetics
9
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Posted - 2013.10.12 04:43:00 -
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RevoL Frog wrote:Did Pradox One take the district from Subsonic Synthetics and give it to PRO?
They kept the one they took from us and gave their original to PRO
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Mass Heals
Subsonic Synthetics
92
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Posted - 2013.10.12 08:04:00 -
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RevoL Frog wrote:I want the guys in PRO to know that this is nothing personal against them ...this time anyways. PRO can keep their district. Our district is currently own by Pardox One. We want that. |
Ghost Kaisar
Pradox One
483
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Posted - 2013.10.12 08:19:00 -
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Mass Heals wrote:RevoL Frog wrote:I want the guys in PRO to know that this is nothing personal against them ...this time anyways. PRO can keep their district. Our district is currently own by Pardox One. We want that.
Okay. Kinda skewed on whats going on here. Correct me if I am wrong please.
Synth attacked another district (subreddit?), and took the district after 3 wins (violation, correct?).
Pradox saw this, said they were in violation, and took both districts.
Pradox is now trying to give away said district, to people who won't break the rules.
NOW. Before everyone starts screaming insults, lets look at this from our perspective.
There is no governing body in PFC anymore. Pradox tried to at least enforce the old rules. Now if everyone says that the action we took was rash, then that would assume that we didn't talk to anyone before making the move.
A way to avoid this is to make a coalition of the Corps in PFC to mediate the districts. Kinda like a "break the rules, and everyone here will attack you until you lose that district, and then give it away".
In light of this, Pradox just tried to enforce the rules. If there was already a discussion going on between Subreddit and Synthesis as to the return of the district, why did nobody just calm down and say, "hey, lets talk this out?".
TL;DR This just seems like a mess of miscommunication, lack of a command structure, and general immaturity. Let's all talk this out before PFC burns to the ground.
Just my 0.02 ISK. |
Sum1ne Else
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
629
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:36:00 -
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Darth Threatius wrote:RevoL Frog wrote:Did Pradox One take the district from Subsonic Synthetics and give it to PRO? They kept the one they took from us and gave their original to PRO
This is correct.
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Sum1ne Else
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
630
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:47:00 -
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Another point to make.
Maybe there should be a new rule added.. If you own 3 or more districts outside of PFC you should pass up your district to the next corp.
I was under the impression this is for training purposes and to get your corp on the map. I see a lot of new corps that would like a piece of the PFC pie but cannot get on there. PFC has not really changed yet the corps on PFC own many districts elsewhere and slowly gaining ground, do they need one of these districts?
PRO need to train and this is a great way for it to happen. We do not have 1000 members, we have 300 and I would say 50% are active, are you scared that the trash we get called will maybe start to beat corps?
I'm not too sure why you should say we need to give it away, maybe the finger should be pointed atthe other PFC owners with districts out of Oddudlulf |
Mass Heals
Subsonic Synthetics
94
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:17:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:
I'm not too sure why you should say we need to give it away, maybe the finger should be pointed atthe other PFC owners with districts out of Oddudlulf
It's because the district that was given to your corp was not theirs to give in the first place. But I you're right about certain corps being too old to be there! If PFC is for new corps, then corps with district held on other planets need to abandon Odduelf. And since Pradox One has 9 districts on other planets...., I believe it is only fair for them to give back our district, and let PRO keep the one they gave to them. |
Sum1ne Else
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
630
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Posted - 2013.10.12 17:38:00 -
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Mass Heals wrote:Sum1ne Else wrote:
I'm not too sure why you should say we need to give it away, maybe the finger should be pointed atthe other PFC owners with districts out of Oddudlulf
It's because the district that was given to your corp was not theirs to give in the first place. But I you're right about certain corps being too old to be there! If PFC is for new corps, then corps with district held on other planets need to abandon Odduelf. And since Pradox One has 9 districts on other planets...., I believe it is only fair for them to give back our district, and let PRO keep the one they gave to them.
Good point. However, you broke the rules therefore you should at least have a period of time where you're not allowed in PFC, what do you think? |
Mass Heals
Subsonic Synthetics
94
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Posted - 2013.10.12 18:07:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Mass Heals wrote:Sum1ne Else wrote:
I'm not too sure why you should say we need to give it away, maybe the finger should be pointed atthe other PFC owners with districts out of Oddudlulf
It's because the district that was given to your corp was not theirs to give in the first place. But I you're right about certain corps being too old to be there! If PFC is for new corps, then corps with district held on other planets need to abandon Odduelf. And since Pradox One has 9 districts on other planets...., I believe it is only fair for them to give back our district, and let PRO keep the one they gave to them. Good point. However, you broke the rules therefore you should at least have a period of time where you're not allowed in PFC, what do you think?
We broke the rules with our attack on Subdreddit. This was done of our own ignorance and was resolved immediately with Subdreddit by giving the district back. Our ownership with District 4 was legal, and the attack against us was not. PRO, you should maintain your district that you currently have, and Pradox One should give back our district which we rightfully own in accordance with PFC rules. But let's be honest, their going to keep ignore us anyway. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
282
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:45:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Hawkin P wrote:How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
Is your district full yet?
Can we give you some clones to help the district fill up faster?
Will CBJ be there? Lol.. Well break us in gently ey!? We do not mind a few friendly skirms with you guys at all, Heck bring your D team, I mean A, actually is it G team? Forget how many guys you took from PRO. And CBJ will not be attending, it's a chance for some of the PRO guys who haven't ever experienced PC to fight. I think u meant how many left when Joe decided to stop all the PC training programs that Sev setup. But how many left, just most of the people in the training programs. Which may explain why you find yourself with the problem you have now.
Seriously, I don't have a problem with PRO never did just JOE. Glad to see you guys are starting to do some training. We have ppl we need to train also maybe so maybe we can help each other out. |
Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthetics
14
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Posted - 2013.10.15 04:17:00 -
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Sum1ne Else wrote:Mass Heals wrote:Sum1ne Else wrote:
I'm not too sure why you should say we need to give it away, maybe the finger should be pointed atthe other PFC owners with districts out of Oddudlulf
It's because the district that was given to your corp was not theirs to give in the first place. But I you're right about certain corps being too old to be there! If PFC is for new corps, then corps with district held on other planets need to abandon Odduelf. And since Pradox One has 9 districts on other planets...., I believe it is only fair for them to give back our district, and let PRO keep the one they gave to them. Good point. However, you broke the rules therefore you should at least have a period of time where you're not allowed in PFC, what do you think?
I think Pradox GIVING you a district was against the rules too. what do you think? |
Sum1ne Else
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
641
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:59:00 -
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Hawkin P wrote:Sum1ne Else wrote:Hawkin P wrote:How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
How long until we can attack?
Is your district full yet?
Can we give you some clones to help the district fill up faster?
Will CBJ be there? Lol.. Well break us in gently ey!? We do not mind a few friendly skirms with you guys at all, Heck bring your D team, I mean A, actually is it G team? Forget how many guys you took from PRO. And CBJ will not be attending, it's a chance for some of the PRO guys who haven't ever experienced PC to fight. I think u meant how many left when Joe decided to stop all the PC training programs that Sev setup. But how many left, just most of the people in the training programs. Which may explain why you find yourself with the problem you have now. Seriously, I don't have a problem with PRO never did just JOE. Glad to see you guys are starting to do some training. We have ppl we need to train also maybe so maybe we can help each other out.
Sounds good Hawkin, well our district should be online if you put in an attack by all means bring those guys in and try them out. We don't have strict rules in PC so we will just try and field a full team on a 1st come 1st in basis, rather than anyone specific. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
The Generals BC
161
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:48:00 -
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Played you guys this past saturday, great match, you guys have potential. |
General John Ripper
TeamPlayers EoN.
3627
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:55:00 -
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I hate how im too cool for pfc now.. if i join any pfc match ppl will QQ. |
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