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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:30:00 -
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Produced in association with Immortal Guides.
There are two ways in DUST to manage your income (your payout at the end of a match) versus your expenses (the cost of your dropsuits, vehicles, weapons modules and equipment). Then there is the third option of not managing your ISK at all and just poring real life money into the game.
1) Only equip what you can afford to loose.
2) Grinding ISK so you can run what you like.
3) Grind in real life and use AUR so you can run ISK free.
Option 1, Only equip what you can afford to loose:
First figure out what your average income per match is. It will probably be somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 ISK depending on your skill and play style.
Then figure out your average number of clone deaths per match. (If someone revives you with a Nanite Injector you do not loose your gear.)
Then make sure your fits cost less than your average income divided by your average number of deaths. So, if you average 120,000 ISK per match and you die 10 times per match, you can afford to run fits up to 12,000 ISK. If you can reduce your average deaths per match to 5, then you can afford to run fits up to 24,000 ISK.
Sometimes you will die more and loose money, and sometimes you will have a good game and make money, but if you have your averages right it should even out over time.
When you find yourself in a match that is unbalanced and you are up against highly skilled players in good gear, you will die a lot. Economically your best course of action is to switch to cheap or free suits to mitigate your ISK loss. You may also switch to a role which has a lower average death count, such as a Sniper. (Keep in mind that this is economic advice. If you decide to take the loss and run your best suits to test your mettle against good players I would commend your spirit, but just be aware of the economic consequences of such actions. I donGÇÖt want to see you wining on the forums later because you lost a bunch of expensive suits to proto stompers.)
Pro tip: Putting Proto modules on a Standard suit costs a lot less than putting Standard modules on a Proto suit.
Option 2, Grinding ISK so you can run what you like:
This option is the default option if you donGÇÖt pay attention to your finances, because once you go broke you will end up running the free starter suits whether you planned to or not. It is also the option that pilots and tank operators are stuck with until they get really good at what they do.
Basically grind ISK by using a fit that is as inexpensive as possible so that you keep most of the ISK you make from each match. Then when you have lots of ISK saved up you can buy your dream suits or vehicles and run them until you burn through your ISK, then go back to grinding ISK in your cheap suit until you can afford to buy the good stuff again.
The cheapest fits are the Starter Fits which are completely free. However, you can make duplicates of the Free Starter Fits and customise them a bit to better fit what you want to do. As long as you use Militia gear you can keep the cost down. Check the cost of your fit by selecting the Restock option and leave the quantity at 1.
You can make your fit a bit more functional by using Basic equipment, although this will bring your costs up a bit. It becomes a balance between how much functionality you are willing to give up, versus how much you want to be able to make in a match. Just remember that the most expensive items are Dropsuits and Weapons.
If you are willing to spend some real money you can buy the Veterans Pack ($50) or the Elite Pack ($100) from the PlayStation store. These come with Blue Print Original (BPO) dropsuits and weapons. A BPO has an unlimited supply, so once you have paid the up front cost they are essentially free going forward. Having BOPGÇÖs of Dropsuits and Weapons, especially if they are the standard rather than militia variants, can help you make an effective and very inexpensive fit.
Option 3, Grind in real life and use AUR so you can run ISK free:
If you donGÇÖt mind spending real money, you can buy the Neo suits with AUR, allowing you to do your grinding in real life rather than in game. There are AUR versions of just about everything in the game, so if you are rich out of game, you can run ISK free. This has the added advantage of bringing joy to the hearts of anyone who kills you, for they will know that they are costing you real world money. It is also worth noting that for anything you buy with AUR, there is an equivalent item that can be purchased with ISK, and the people who have the ISK to afford the good stuff are usually really good players, and will probably kill you. This is not Pay to Win (PtW); this is Pay to grind less. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:31:00 -
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Other Immortal Guides publications:
Fox Guide: Getting Started, Your First Steps in DUST
Fox Guide: Frontline, A Medium Frame Infantry Users Manual
Fox Guide: Sniping, The Role of the Sniper
Fox Guide: Marksman, Taking Sniper to the next level
Fox Guide: Swarm Launcher, Unleashing the Swarm
Fox Guide: SMG, Unlocking Versatility
Fox Guide: Remote Explosives, Unleash the Mad Bomber
Fox Guide: Battlefield Roles (A Glossary of terms)
Rookie Training Grounds Guide Compilation
The Guide Compilation (A one-stop-shop for all your guide needs) |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:32:00 -
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Reserved for when they add the open Market |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.09 19:33:00 -
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Reserved for when they add the open Market |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:20:00 -
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Stunned by the sheer volume of good info. +1 yet again. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:39:00 -
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As always Fox G. Is on point with the information he disseminates. +1 |
Ironyimation Inception
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.11 00:16:00 -
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Wait people aside from tankers and drop ship pilots go broke? When did this start to happen? |
CARBONIZED v
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:56:00 -
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Story of my gaming life, grind during day to tank at night. Excelent guide btw. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:08:00 -
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Nice to see some of my members actually posting on the forums.
Irony, think of a new player that puts all their skill points into Dropsuits and Weapons instead of Dropsuit Upgrade skills, and then runs the best suits and weapons thinking it will make them good. Those are the people most likely to go broke. It is called learning the hard way, as apposed to reading my guides which is learning the easy way. 
Even experienced players will loose money when running dream fits. I lost about 10 million ISK over the course of two weeks just because I was running a Proto swarm launcher and most games were a slight loss. Of course you are right, people usually go back to grinding well before they actually go broke.
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J Falcs
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.12 03:14:00 -
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Similar but different advice:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84092&find=unread |
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Lucrezia LeGrand
Delta Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:35:00 -
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good advice. I was lucky enough to read something like this when I started. ^_^ I have BPO suits and weapons. Everything I level up in is in dropsuit core upgrades. Very happy with my character and very thankful for Fox.
Thank you again for helping out. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:11:00 -
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This is common knowledge... unfortunately newbs haven't been playing long enough to obtain this knowledge so +1 for catching them up. I have mad respect for those that go out of there way to help others.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST . |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2013.12.17 20:40:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:If you are willing to spend some real money you can buy the Veterans Pack ($50) or the Elite Pack ($100) from the PlayStation store. These come with Blue Print Original (BPO) dropsuits and weapons. A BPO has an unlimited supply, so once you have paid the up front cost they are essentially free going forward. Having BPOGÇÖs of Dropsuits and Weapons, especially if they are the standard rather than militia variants, can help you make an effective and very inexpensive fit.
The BPO's have been removed from the market. You can now only earn certain BPO's by recruiting friends. You can find your recruitment code at: https://dust514.com/user/friends/ You also earn active boosters by recruiting people.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:10:00 -
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I will have to update the guide.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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StoneSmasher Drugga
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.19 06:53:00 -
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Lose and loose are two different words.
There is no evil greater than hyperbole.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:34:00 -
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StoneSmasher Drugga wrote:Lose and loose are two different words.
Thanks. I made the correction. Did I miss any?
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.01.14 15:27:00 -
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Added:
4) Joining a PC Corp and getting sponsored.
5) Playing the Market. (Coming Soon)
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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