DUST Search - Am i the only one that find OBs slightly illogical?

All Channels

General Discussions

Am i the only one that find OBs slightly illogical?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 732	Posted - 2013.10.08 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote Win enough to get one means there is a very good chance your team is winning. So you get a extremely powerful weapon that KOs everything and you get more WP resulting in another OB? Also the squad leaders KD.R and WP spikes, thus the reward most likely increases for only him. Edit: Don't get me wrong! They are awesome.. But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game.
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1653	Posted - 2013.10.08 05:50:00 - [2] - Quote all of these changes wont be logical until we have eve/dust connection past 20% complete and we barely have it 2% complete.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2122	Posted - 2013.10.08 05:50:00 - [3] - Quote Stop thinking and trying to make sense of this game. That's a futile battle
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 520	Posted - 2013.10.08 05:57:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah, that's my problem . Orbitals are essentially artillery strikes. You don't call in a blind artillery strike if you are succeeding in a battle. You call one if you need the help and are losing. So, an orbital should be for the team not getting a certain amount of WP by a certain time. I would say that if the winning team gets it then it should kill everybody in the area like a blind artillery strike would. But, we know that wouldn't be abused to death don't we?
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 901	Posted - 2013.10.08 06:46:00 - [5] - Quote Xender17 wrote: But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. That's probably why this
Tailss Prower Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2013.10.08 08:20:00 - [6] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Yeah, that's my problem . Orbitals are essentially artillery strikes. You don't call in a blind artillery strike if you are succeeding in a battle. You call one if you need the help and are losing. So, an orbital should be for the team not getting a certain amount of WP by a certain time. I would say that if the winning team gets it then it should kill everybody in the area like a blind artillery strike would. But, we know that wouldn't be abused to death don't we? yeah but if they did that we would see alot of people just running around thier ground base on purpose losing just to get an OB
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1399	Posted - 2013.10.08 08:46:00 - [7] - Quote But sometimes games are close and orbitals secure victory just slightly, depending on how well squad leaders on either side place them and whether or not they timed it at critical moments. The difference between those games and absolute pubstomps come down to squads of random blueberries and squads of organised, communicating members. So it's quite a predicament. Unless organised squads formed BEFORE entering the warbarge and in battle are given an incentive to play against other squads, perhaps a special high-risk high-bounty contract, classified as dangerous missions recommended for coordinated teams, then this continues. Or change the orbital mechanics. I was thinking give all WP earned by OBs at the end of the battle, so that it's calculated for SP/ISK but doesn't contribute to the WP requirements for the next orbitals. Or make it so orbitals don't give WP at all, but depending on the damage done, the squad gains extra ISK (and SP, maybe)
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 635	Posted - 2013.10.08 08:54:00 - [8] - Quote Pretty sure that the WP from orbitals doesn't count towards the next one - IIRC that was fixed not long after OBs were released.
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1653	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:02:00 - [9] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Xender17 wrote: But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. That's probably why this who are you? iv never heard of you or seen you before.... how are you a cpm?
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 730	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:05:00 - [10] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Xender17 wrote: But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. That's probably why this who are you? iv never heard of you or seen you before.... how are you a cpm? He's one of the CSM members that actually cared about Dust.

Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1658	Posted - 2013.10.08 09:10:00 - [11] - Quote My guess is that OB's never supposed to be like this.....and we still using the "Testing System" from the Beta. Maybe one day... in about 10 years...
MySpaceTom Xer Cloud Consortium 211	Posted - 2014.01.06 08:42:00 - [12] - Quote Nice to check back on this thread with the new changes to OB mechanics in FW. Yes, OBs not on a timer mechanic often work to further demoralize an enemy force that's already down. 4920616d204a6164656b204d656e616865696d277320526167696e672042696c652044756374
Kira Takizawa 2Shitz 1Giggle 85	Posted - 2014.01.06 11:58:00 - [13] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Pretty sure that the WP from orbitals doesn't count towards the next one - IIRC that was fixed not long after OBs were released. They do..
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 24	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:03:00 - [14] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: My guess is that OB's never supposed to be like this.....and we still using the "Testing System" from the Beta. Maybe one day... in about 10 years... That's quite optimistic.. More like 20 years GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4385	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:38:00 - [15] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Win enough to get one means there is a very good chance your team is winning. So you get a extremely powerful weapon that KOs everything and you get more WP resulting in another OB? Also the squad leaders KD.R and WP spikes, thus the reward most likely increases for only him. Edit: Don't get me wrong! They are awesome.. But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. I agree completely about Orbitals basically being what Killstreaks are in the Call of Duty series, and that's part of why I was happy to see the changes they made in Faction Warfare where they removed those completely and only kept ones that can be used EVE-side. I'm not sure how they'd be able to allow for that with public battles, though, as those are composed of completely random groups of players, and the current model requires that you be a member of one of the involved Corporations to be able to deliver support. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7532	Posted - 2014.01.06 12:58:00 - [16] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Xender17 wrote: But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. That's probably why this who are you? iv never heard of you or seen you before.... how are you a cpm? I'm surprised you've heard of the CPM if you haven't heard of Hans. I suppose it's because he doesn't shitpost in GD all the time. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1251	Posted - 2014.01.06 13:05:00 - [17] - Quote This issue was raised at the last fanfest questions. The dev basically said there was little they could do about the 'negative re-enforcement' OBs provide. I think to promote teams and squads all squad leaders get 1 OB per game. Thats it. This, I believe, is preferable to the avalanche of OBs against already losing sides. Lets face it, OBs as they stand add nothing except securing victory. More often than not I see OBs being used on a losing team as it attempts to wrestle back control of the last CP. In many ways OBs sort of reduce gametime by about half, by thats time victory has already been secured as any attempt to come back is mitigated by strikes. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 228	Posted - 2014.01.06 14:27:00 - [18] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Win enough to get one means there is a very good chance your team is winning. So you get a extremely powerful weapon that KOs everything and you get more WP resulting in another OB? Also the squad leaders KD.R and WP spikes, thus the reward most likely increases for only him. Edit: Don't get me wrong! They are awesome.. But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. well well well, if it isn't commander spock. I use a tablet so beware of typos
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2645	Posted - 2014.01.06 14:35:00 - [19] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Xender17 wrote: But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. That's probably why this who are you? iv never heard of you or seen you before.... how are you a cpm? I've seen him around, he's one of the quieter ones on the forums.... Proud member of the Commndo 6 <3 Commando AK.0
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3411	Posted - 2014.01.06 15:33:00 - [20] - Quote Also: If they could fire from orbit at any time, wouldn't they just hit the enemy MCC? We used to have a time machine

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 1954	Posted - 2014.01.06 16:13:00 - [21] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Win enough to get one means there is a very good chance your team is winning. So you get a extremely powerful weapon that KOs everything and you get more WP resulting in another OB? Also the squad leaders KD.R and WP spikes, thus the reward most likely increases for only him. Edit: Don't get me wrong! They are awesome.. But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. Yes iv thought the same thing for a while now, I think they should be removed from pubs because its just cheap in a pub match. Inb4 bashing nubs even harder with an ob comment. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 759	Posted - 2014.01.06 16:24:00 - [22] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Win enough to get one means there is a very good chance your team is winning. So you get a extremely powerful weapon that KOs everything and you get more WP resulting in another OB? Also the squad leaders KD.R and WP spikes, thus the reward most likely increases for only him. Edit: Don't get me wrong! They are awesome.. But just don't seem to fit in a competitive situation for a video game. I agree. It seems like the ultimate pub-stomp. I notice that when orbitals start hitting a losing team, everyone on the losing team starts switching to militia gear and snipers start to pop up like weeds. I think this stuff should all be started and controlled EVE-side. They should start FW battles. They should determine what battles get supported and when. When the time comes EVE guys should also determine reinforcement of districts, supply of weapons, dropsuits, vehicles and clones. All the logistics for fighting a war. Munch Dedicated Sniper. Minmatar Patriot (6).


Pages: 1 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online/DUST514, the EVE/DUST514 logo, EVE/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to OMG Labs to use EVE Online/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, OMG Labs. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.