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Marston VC wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

So if we are to believe the descriptions,

The Matari combat rifle is a single shot medium range rifle? (It also suggests it can stay out of the raneg of the AR)

The Caldari rail rifle is going to be a long range single shot high with a smaller clip.

Intresting, not exactly how I expect it all.

Combat rifle is going to be a burst rifle that doesnt suck, rail rifle is going to be a breach rifle that doesnt suck
Otherwise every races specialty but the gallente is going to be modified tactical rifles

Almost, but not quite. The scrambler rifle is the tactical rifle that does suck.

Then each race is going to get a "mimic" version of the other races version.
So Amarr will get a breach and burst scrambler rifle (we already have the assault and our base is tactical)
Minmatar will get a breach combat rifle, assault combat rifle, and tactical combat rifle, and their base is burst.
Caldari will get an assault rail rifle, burst rail rifle, and tactical rail rifle, and their base is breach
Gallente already have all their variants, but the range will probably get lowered to be more in-line with hybrid-plasma weapons.

Well hold the phone there friend. Amar already has two varients of light weapons though. The LR and SR. What could they possibly do about the LR to give it variations? Perhaps there going to get different range types so that different laser rifles are better at different ranges?


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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2640	Posted - 2013.10.08 10:31:00 - [1] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: So if we are to believe the descriptions, The Matari combat rifle is a single shot medium range rifle? (It also suggests it can stay out of the raneg of the AR) The Caldari rail rifle is going to be a long range single shot high with a smaller clip. Intresting, not exactly how I expect it all. Combat rifle is going to be a burst rifle that doesnt suck, rail rifle is going to be a breach rifle that doesnt suck Otherwise every races specialty but the gallente is going to be modified tactical rifles Almost, but not quite. The scrambler rifle is the tactical rifle that does suck. Then each race is going to get a "mimic" version of the other races version. So Amarr will get a breach and burst scrambler rifle (we already have the assault and our base is tactical) Minmatar will get a breach combat rifle, assault combat rifle, and tactical combat rifle, and their base is burst. Caldari will get an assault rail rifle, burst rail rifle, and tactical rail rifle, and their base is breach Gallente already have all their variants, but the range will probably get lowered to be more in-line with hybrid-plasma weapons.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2640	Posted - 2013.10.08 10:43:00 - [2] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: So I guess we are going to need respecs because they said that assault rifles were just place holders for for the combat and rail rifle types. No, the assault rifles are gallente make up. Combat rifles should be minmatar, and rail rifles should be caldari. Each different "version" of the assault rifle is gallente's attempt at mimicking the other nations weaponry. Breach rifle is trying to compete in close range against the rail rifle. tact rifle is trying to compete with the LR. Assault rifle is trying to compete with the CR. So basically the "jack of all trades but master of none" Or at least...... that's what CCP said a while back. Maybe im wrong and CR's are supposed to take over Assault rifles but that would seem kind of silly honestly...... Cuz I thought they were trying to add content, not take it away? Again, close but not quite. Breach AR is Gallente's attempt at trying to mimic high damage low ROF of the rail rifle. Those are the defining characteristics of "breach," not low range. The low range is because Gallente, the actual rail rifle will be high range (relatively). The tactical rifle is the Gallente's attempt at tying to mimic the scrambler rifle, not the laser rifle. The laser rifle is not even part of the "frontline rifles" class of weapons. The normal assault rifle is actually Gallente's thing, "assault." Low damage, high rate of fire. The closet thing we have to the combat rifle is the burst assault rifle.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2640	Posted - 2013.10.08 10:51:00 - [3] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Delta 749 wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: So if we are to believe the descriptions, The Matari combat rifle is a single shot medium range rifle? (It also suggests it can stay out of the raneg of the AR) The Caldari rail rifle is going to be a long range single shot high with a smaller clip. Intresting, not exactly how I expect it all. Combat rifle is going to be a burst rifle that doesnt suck, rail rifle is going to be a breach rifle that doesnt suck Otherwise every races specialty but the gallente is going to be modified tactical rifles Almost, but not quite. The scrambler rifle is the tactical rifle that does suck. Then each race is going to get a "mimic" version of the other races version. So Amarr will get a breach and burst scrambler rifle (we already have the assault and our base is tactical) Minmatar will get a breach combat rifle, assault combat rifle, and tactical combat rifle, and their base is burst. Caldari will get an assault rail rifle, burst rail rifle, and tactical rail rifle, and their base is breach Gallente already have all their variants, but the range will probably get lowered to be more in-line with hybrid-plasma weapons. Well hold the phone there friend. Amar already has two varients of light weapons though. The LR and SR. What could they possibly do about the LR to give it variations? Perhaps there going to get different range types so that different laser rifles are better at different ranges? Here's how it works, CCP has weapon classes. Each race will get one of that class, so each class has 4 weapons. The main weapon class is what I call "frontline rifles" but CCP may call something else. This is each nation's standard grade rifle. They are the Gallente Assault Rifle (probably get renamed), Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle, and Scrambler Rifle. Another weapon class that we know the full set of is the pistol weapon class, which contains the Amarr Scrambler Pistol, Minmatar Flaylock Pistol, Gallente Ion Pistol, Caldari Bolt Pistol. There is also a submachine gun weapon class of which we only know two so far, the Minmatar SMG (probably get renamed) and Caldari Magsec SMG. Amarr and Gallente TBA. There's a light AV weapon class of which we know two, Caldari Swarm Launcher and Gallente Plasma Cannon. Amarr and Minmatar TBA. There is a sniper rifle weapon class of which we know two, Caldari Sniper Rifle (again, probably get renamed) and Minmatar Precision Rifle. Amarr and Gallente TBA. And then there's the knife class, shotgun class, etc. The Laser Rifle I am not too sure of what class it is (and I'll admit when I don't know something), but I know it is definitely not in any of the previously mentioned classes. My guess is it's part of a Special/Support weapon class along with the Minmatar Mass Driver and Caldari and Gallente versions TBA. Look buddy, I'll be honest, I have way too much time on my hands. Trust me, I know this stuff
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2640	Posted - 2013.10.08 11:01:00 - [4] - Quote meri jin wrote: reading this, frustrates me even more. where is this stuff!? Buried deep in the forums never to be seen again, MWAHAHAHAHA No to be honest if you gave me enough time I could probably find all my sources for what I said above, but it would take awhile. CCP devs have this strange habit of posting news and major details for how the game works in the middle of mega threads so no one can find them.