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knight guard fury
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:48:00 -
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how do you feel aout this my fellow minmatar brothers and sisters? |

steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1475
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Posted - 2013.10.07 15:06:00 -
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Context as this is a suppriseing way to treat you friends |

Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1088
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Posted - 2013.10.07 15:57:00 -
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I find it stupid, but amusing. |

Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1646
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:30:00 -
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finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them? |

XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
328
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:20:00 -
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were did you hear about cases of Gallente killing our fellow Matari? I have heard of the reports of discrimination, but not of out right violence, unless you count Kinhar Elokur. But that was technically on our end. |

Humble Seeker
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:59:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them?
Pretty sure that Caldarians are more than a bit wary on making deals with the Gallentean Government at this point, wouldn't you say?
Nothing intended in bad taste, just pointing out an obvious one you seemed to miss. |

Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
120
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:14:00 -
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Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2660
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:23:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans.
And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari?
They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2187
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes.
Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies.
The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others... |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2662
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space.
Poor and in slums. |
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
330
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Poor and in slums.
Because most people would prefer to be slaves by name right? |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2187
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Poor and in slums. They are poor because many of them are either naturalized citizens or there parents are. Therefore they are unable to garner enough money to commit to large economic enterprises.
Though, this has been the case with many migrations of people. Of note, half of all people who identify Minmatar are not poor, they are in fact middle class.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2627
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:02:00 -
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By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2188
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:07:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. The Amarr only left the Caldari alone because they did not want to fight the Minmatar and Gallante on a two on one fight.
It has now developed into something grander, though barely. The Caldari are good trading partners because they are the only Empire that is not hostile with the Gallante. |

Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
1649
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Posted - 2013.10.07 21:45:00 -
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Humble Seeker wrote:Void Echo wrote:finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them? Pretty sure that Caldarians are more than a bit wary on making deals with the Gallentean Government at this point, wouldn't you say? Nothing intended in bad taste, just pointing out an obvious one you seemed to miss.
I meant that someone could individually pay them to attack you amtard |

Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3715
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Posted - 2013.10.07 21:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. Sources?
Not a single one of you have provided a source for this accusation, apart from one completing undermining this and showing one of the Matari killing our people. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2666
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. Sources? Not a single one of you have provided a source for this accusation, apart from one completing undermining this and showing one of the Matari killing our people. An Amarrian was not the source of this report. it was matari in orgin. You should be dealing with them to prevent such discrimination rather than preaching your egalitarian gospel to those who would treat them them better. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2667
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others... I wish you much luck with that initiative, all peoples are deserving of proper education... though I doubt much besides pro Federation Rhetoric is likely to be on the curriculum. |

Humble Seeker
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:57:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Humble Seeker wrote:Void Echo wrote:finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them? Pretty sure that Caldarians are more than a bit wary on making deals with the Gallentean Government at this point, wouldn't you say? Nothing intended in bad taste, just pointing out an obvious one you seemed to miss. I meant that someone could individually pay them to attack you amtard
No need to get defensive. The forums can be a place of civil conversation.
Save the inevitable brutality for the battlefield. |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2189
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others... I wish you much luck with that initiative, all peoples are deserving of proper education... though I doubt much besides pro Federation Rhetoric is likely to be on the curriculum. We believe education should be non biased; education should be factual and non aligned. This is the reason there are so many views in the Gallante Federation.
Anyhow, I doubt that Amarr children are educated on the opposing views of the Empire. For example; I highly doubt that they are taught on why exactly most all other states look down on slavery.
In the Gallante Federation we teach the exact views of all people.
We believe in playing the Devil's advocate. It is a favorite pass time among Gallante intellectuals. It helps us to put things in perspective and prioritize our objectives. We are a people of many views. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2672
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others... I wish you much luck with that initiative, all peoples are deserving of proper education... though I doubt much besides pro Federation Rhetoric is likely to be on the curriculum. We believe education should be non biased; education should be factual and non aligned. This is the reason there are so many views in the Gallante Federation. Anyhow, I doubt that Amarr children are educated on the opposing views of the Empire. For example; I highly doubt that they are taught on why exactly most all other states look down on slavery. In the Gallante Federation we teach the exact views of all people. We believe in playing the Devil's advocate. It is a favorite pass time among Gallante intellectuals. It helps us to put things in perspective and prioritize our objectives. We are a people of many views.
They are not educated about it at a young age lest they, in their youthful impetuousness embrace such ideals to their demise. There are many more things to learn at a young age, from the scriptures to the histories of the Amarr peoples.
If you did teach such views your people would not be as ignorant as they are, however when you are lucid I do so enjoy our discussions. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2672
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Posted - 2013.10.08 02:07:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Humble Seeker wrote:Void Echo wrote:finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them? Pretty sure that Caldarians are more than a bit wary on making deals with the Gallentean Government at this point, wouldn't you say? Nothing intended in bad taste, just pointing out an obvious one you seemed to miss. I meant that someone could individually pay them to attack you amtard why would they? ISK is core to the function of their culture, but not in its spirit where loyalty, duty, and honour are vastly more important. |

Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
121
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:34:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2674
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:52:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts.
No I'm merely asking a question. I infer your previous troubles with the Minmatar as you preach your egalitarian mantra and wonder why do you don't simply rise above the violence done unto you and turn the other cheek? |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2192
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Posted - 2013.10.08 09:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:...however when you are lucid I do so enjoy our discussions... Sir, I am not sure what you mean. Please explain.
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DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2192
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Posted - 2013.10.08 09:13:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts. No I'm merely asking a question. I infer your previous troubles with the Minmatar as you preach your egalitarian mantra and wonder why do you don't simply rise above the violence done unto you and turn the other cheek? How do you feel about the Minmatar population committing violent acts against our small population of Amarrian people.
Currently it seems, that peoples of the mainsstream Amarrian belief are one of the most persecuted groups in the Federation. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2691
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:01:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts. No I'm merely asking a question. I infer your previous troubles with the Minmatar as you preach your egalitarian mantra and wonder why do you don't simply rise above the violence done unto you and turn the other cheek? How do you feel about the Minmatar population committing violent acts against our small population of Amarrian people. Currently it seems, that peoples of the mainsstream Amarrian belief are one of the most persecuted groups in the Federation. Where was this statistic generated? |

DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2192
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Where was this statistic generated? In the first edition Black Eagles Fact Log.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3727
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Posted - 2013.10.08 22:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. Sources? Not a single one of you have provided a source for this accusation, apart from one completing undermining this and showing one of the Matari killing our people. An Amarrian was not the source of this report. it was matari in orgin. You should be dealing with them to prevent such discrimination rather than preaching your egalitarian gospel to those who would treat them them better.
Sorry, what? Egalitarian gospel? At what point did I preach 'egalitarian gospel'? All I did was question your baseless accusations. |

RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
562
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:14:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Where was this statistic generated? In the first edition Black Eagles Fact Log. You're making details of a highly classified document available to the General populace? Lawl, try something better.
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