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General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:41:00 -
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When these new vehicle changes arrive, please remove all AV weapons advanced-officer and refund the isk and sp accordingly. Take away then return officer weapons once done. Disable salvage for these items or take them away then return them once the changes are nearly complete. It would be extremely unbalanced and game-breaking otherwise if tankers must use basic level HAVs and modules against advanced to even officer weapons. If you agree, like and comment below. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1109
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:43:00 -
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Do you mean for 1.7? |
General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
308
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:46:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Do you mean for 1.7?
Yes, but even now all vehicles are at disadvantage, there are no Proto or officer vehicles, making it AV vs vehicle fights unbalanced |
Tony Calif
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2537
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:46:00 -
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Hahaha. Deal with it. This is Beta!!! LoL wait no it isn't, it's just terrible :P |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
743
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:49:00 -
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Funny I dont even use ADV grenades yet I still can kill a 5000 hp tank |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1109
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:49:00 -
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General Grodd wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Do you mean for 1.7? Yes, but even now all vehicles are at disadvantage, there are no Proto or officer vehicles, making it AV vs vehicle fights unbalanced
Well, I cant see anyone giving up there officer weapons,but I would be fine with giving up proto AV.
I'll set aside my swarms and AV nades, but I don't think it will be needed honestly because AV is going to be adjusted in 1.7 as well. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6790
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:50:00 -
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Because officer weapons won't be touched on during the AV balance pass
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Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
366
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:51:00 -
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has ccp mentioned giving havs a base res...it makes no sense that logi lavs come with 30% res naturally but tanks start with 0 a better way over all to balancing tanks is really simple, give all tanks a base res stat that equates out, so it would be able to tank its tier of current av...i do not care enough to run numbers so i couldnt tell you what that base stat should be. and i am not a mathematician.
it seems to me the answer is simple really..the logi lavs because of that base stat resistance are balanced vs their tier of av...so why do tanks and durps not have the same but higher as they are of a diff class of vehicle..ccp is wasting time to completely overhaul vehicles its stupid this game is progressing to slow.
they could balance the fits they have here vs the av they have here by applying one stat that they ALREADY HAVE IN FOR LOGI LAVS..to all vehilces..instead they are gunna make this a slow and painful process that may or MAY NOT come out balanced and will ruin what is left of the already fragile dust 514 vehicles community.
my thoughts
Morte |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1586
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:53:00 -
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CCP said they will be changing the stats on the AV weapons at the same time as the vehicle changes come in, so it's not necessarily going to remain as unbalanced as it is right now. |
General Grodd
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
309
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:55:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:has ccp mentioned giving havs a base res...it makes no sense that logi lavs come with 30% res naturally but tanks start with 0 a better way over all to balancing tanks is really simple, give all tanks a base res stat that equates out, so it would be able to tank its tier of current av...i do not care enough to run numbers so i couldnt tell you what that base stat should be. and i am not a mathematician.
it seems to me the answer is simple really..the logi lavs because of that base stat resistance are balanced vs their tier of av...so why do tanks and durps not have the same but higher as they are of a diff class of vehicle..ccp is wasting time to completely overhaul vehicles its stupid this game is progressing to slow.
they could balance the fits they have here vs the av they have here by applying one stat that they ALREADY HAVE IN FOR LOGI LAVS..to all vehilces..instead they are gunna make this a slow and painful process that may or MAY NOT come out balanced and will ruin what is left of the already fragile dust 514 vehicles community.
my thoughts
Morte
Actually I do believe the marauder HAVs came with base resistance, cant remember how much is was though. Unfortunately we have no marauder tanks anymore so... yeaaa lol. |
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
629
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:55:00 -
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AV is getting changed up anyway - at least wait until the details for that are out.
Vehicle users aren't stuck with just basic mods - there will still be advanced and proto mods.
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Funny I dont even use ADV grenades yet I still can kill a 5000 hp tank
Well good news, assuming the tanker sees you coming and turns on their hardeners - you'll have a LOT more than 5000 hp to get through. |
Harpyja
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
611
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Posted - 2013.10.06 15:18:00 -
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AV is slated for a rebalance at the same time as the vehicle changes. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
194
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:01:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:has ccp mentioned giving havs a base res...it makes no sense that logi lavs come with 30% res naturally but tanks start with 0 a better way over all to balancing tanks is really simple, give all tanks a base res stat that equates out, so it would be able to tank its tier of current av...i do not care enough to run numbers so i couldnt tell you what that base stat should be. and i am not a mathematician.
it seems to me the answer is simple really..the logi lavs because of that base stat resistance are balanced vs their tier of av...so why do tanks and durps not have the same but higher as they are of a diff class of vehicle..ccp is wasting time to completely overhaul vehicles its stupid this game is progressing to slow.
they could balance the fits they have here vs the av they have here by applying one stat that they ALREADY HAVE IN FOR LOGI LAVS..to all vehilces..instead they are gunna make this a slow and painful process that may or MAY NOT come out balanced and will ruin what is left of the already fragile dust 514 vehicles community.
my thoughts
Morte
They are removing them anyways...
And it's honestly the only reason why driving a LAV for repping a tank could work. Without it's resist I'd get one hit by proto swarms. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis
578
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:05:00 -
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Im fine with getting a refund on adv/proto AV but I would seriously be scared with CCP touching officer gear in our inventory. They could just temporarily jack up the PG/CPU requirements for them so they cant be fitted and reset them when AV has been adjusted. |
Doc Browner
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
159
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:16:00 -
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while they are at it they could add a minimum distance before a mass driver round explodes.
Nothing pisses me off more that a mass driver shooting at his feet to kill me
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
405
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Posted - 2013.10.06 17:35:00 -
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NO! I WONT LET YOU TAKE MY PLASMA CANNON! |
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